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Sugar House Casino, Pa - Beat the ” Biased Dice ”  ?
Posted: 16 June 2011 07:04 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Hardeight posted the below under another topic in this forum -

As his observations seem to exhibit the use of possibly biased dice - I elected to copy his post and change the topic to encourage feedback on possible / probable / plausabile betting strategies which could / would / should present the player with an advantage .

Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated !

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Hardeight - 16 June 2011 02:15 PM

Please let us know on how you did.People just dont believe me when I say their table is rigged for you to lose.You will witness ALOT of 7/11s back to back with 2/3/12s the most from any casino I have been in.

My adage is - in regards to the casinos - in particular - ” Beat them at their own Game “ 

Taking Hardeight’s observations into consideration -

Can anyone devise a strategy to capitalize on this ” apparent bias situation ” -

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Posted: 16 June 2011 07:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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$nakeEyes - 16 June 2011 07:04 PM

Hardeight posted the below under another topic in this forum -

As his observations seem to exhibit the use of possibly biased dice - I elected to copy his post and change the topic to encourage feedback on possible / probable / plausabile betting strategies which could / would / should present the player with an advantage .

Any and all feedback would be greatly appreciated !

$nakeeyes -

Hardeight - 16 June 2011 02:15 PM

Please let us know on how you did.People just dont believe me when I say their table is rigged for you to lose.You will witness ALOT of 7/11s back to back with 2/3/12s the most from any casino I have been in.

My adage is - in regards to the casinos - in particular - ” Beat them at their own Game “ 

Taking Hardeight’s observations into consideration -

Can anyone devise a strategy to capitalize on this ” apparent bias situation ” -

Comeout only, I’d say play the passline for one unit (say $5 or a multiple thereof), and then $1 each on the C and E and $1 hop sevens.  But thats just me.
If that bias holds I’m not sure if I’d bet beyond that, maybe lay the 4 or 10 (not both, just one). Or maybe don’t comes, no odds and maybe martigale the bets if they hit.
But only if its a heavy bias.

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Posted: 16 June 2011 09:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Bias Dice can be beat, but you need to know what they are biased too. Just because somebody is losing doesn’t make the dice biased!
Hardeight would need to post the rolls he is seeing in the casino!

So we have some idea as to what he is seeing, and if there is a problem! Let’s face facts; first off everybody has bad rolls, then you also have were you see all the sevens coming the same way for hours. If that is the case you are seeing a stick of cheap dice!

So hardeight come-up with the rolls that you are seeing in the casino, so we can see what you are writing about!

Then and only then can anybody come-up with something that would work…!!!

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Posted: 17 June 2011 07:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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How my name gets dragged into someones topic title..again?The poster who asked (I forgot his name) was going there for the first time so I wanted to give him a heads up strategy so he wouldnt waste his money.SOMETIMES YOU CAN TELL THE GAME IS RIGGED but it seems fair at times.

I have nothing to prove so I am NOT recording rolls so you either believe me or not.They know me well enough there and am not going to be banned for always recording numbers.If you want to know then you go there

But I will also mention the laying of numbers is rigged after you hit 3 times in a row and then you lose it all back

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Posted: 18 June 2011 09:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Hardeight - 17 June 2011 07:47 AM

the laying of numbers is rigged after you hit 3 times in a row and then you lose it all back

How long does the rigging of the numbers last before you can start laying numbers again?

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Posted: 18 June 2011 02:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Sancho Panza - 18 June 2011 09:34 AM
Hardeight - 17 June 2011 07:47 AM

the laying of numbers is rigged after you hit 3 times in a row and then you lose it all back

How long does the rigging of the numbers last before you can start laying numbers again?

I dont know once I lose three in a row I quit…Im not stupid

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Posted: 20 June 2011 11:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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$nakeEyes - 16 June 2011 07:04 PM

Hardeight posted the below under another topic in this forum -

As his observations seem to exhibit the use of possibly biased dice - I elected to copy his post and change the topic to encourage feedback on possible / probable / plausabile betting strategies which could / would / should present the player with an advantage .

Hardeight - 16 June 2011 02:15 PM

You will witness ALOT of 7/11s back to back with 2/3/12s the most from any casino I have been in.

Taking Hardeight’s observations into consideration -

Can anyone devise a strategy to capitalize on this ” apparent bias situation ” -

The reported observation of more non-point numbers than expected suggests that if the dice are biased, they are biased to favor the 1, 2, 5, and 6 faces at the expense of the 3 and 4 faces.  At first glance horn bets and variations thereof (e.g. whirl) would seem to be indicated, but the house advantage on those bets starts out so high that it would take adding over a full percentage point to the probability of the favored faces showing to neutralize it.  Lay no-5 and no-9 turn out to be the first bets to go player positive as what I called a “Small 4&3” bias in the “bias dice question” thread is increased, and so those bets would be the ones I recommend if one believes that bias is present.  (BTW when the house advantage on Lay no-5|9 reaches zero the HA on the horn has been cut by more than half, but is still a hefty 6%.)

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