g3tm0n3y - 27 June 2011 08:14 PM
Snakeyes: You’re somewhat indecisive I see, 1st u give me props for the strategy then shoot it down?
“Ballsy maneuver for a female craps player - ballsy maneuver for ANY craps player -
The above scenario can be accomplished with any $ amount across -
For example - @ a $5 betting level - the bet across the board would be $32 -
This particular player is multiplying this factor by 100 -
The only fly in the ointment with this strategy is :
How many losses can this bettor absorb/withstand - What is the risk to ruin ratio - Sooner or later you are going to lose to a 7-out -
What happens if this occurs 2 times in a row / 3 times in a row / 4 times in a row, etc, ........... -
The concept is unique, viable, attainable and logical -
However, the primary and most discernable flaw in this concept is simply the following :
The amount wagered is excessive to the bankroll - and sooner than later - this bettor will get bitten in the ass - big time !
The betting amounts need to be reduced to a more acceptable level in order to be able to survive the inevitable back to back losses that will occur - and to ensure the survival of the bettor. [size=4][/s
LET ME EXPLAIN SOME THINGS!
#1- I’m not a female
Dee, my aplogies re: the female shooter comment - in my world ” Dee ” is a female nickname / short for Denise - apparently my assumption was off mark -
#2- The results cannot be done with any lower wager because I can make a grip in 3 rolls what it could take over 100 rolls to do with a much smaller lets say $100 bankroll.
The results can be achieved with a much less reduced ” Risk to Ruin Factor ” - obviously your ” win ” amount will be reduced - but your longevity at the tables will be greatly extended -
#3- As far as loses go, I can see myself losing once or twice in one week but that’s it because of the counts I’ve been using on others and myself. It’s kinda like Russian Roulette, there is a “7 shot revolver with 6 empty and one way to die. Now don’t u think u’d have more chances to die the longer u pull the trigger, but you’d have a better chance of living the less u do…
Your acceptance of 1 to 2 weekly losses is unacceptable / unrealistic / total nonsense - more ” wishful thinking ” than reality -
You are wagering BIG $ on unknowns because they exhibited - in your mind - control over the dice -
Bet the BIG $ on yourself - why take the risk on others - especially at $500 to $600 per number -
#4- The amount wager isn’t excessive to the bankroll because that’s the whole point, if I lose I’d leave and live to fight another day.
You can’t fight if you have no bullets !!!!!!
#5- Betting amounts don’t need to be reduced because this is hit & run. If I went in the Casino with $6,600 let me or someone else establish a point then have my “All Across” on I’d get paid $2,000 for 10,4 $1400 for 5,6,8,9 and could just leave after that! That’s alot of money for me and on a wiery day I could prob pull it off or merely pick and choose one point of time when the dice are in the heat of the moment and turn them on get paid off one hit then leave. Craps is all about timing to me and I’d rather win enough on a couple of rolls than many rolls anyday…
We all want to win -
Do you think for 1 second that anyone goes to a casino to lose money -
Yet the sad fact of the matter is - Most people do lose - Few are winners _
Dee, you sa that you worked hard for your money, I do likewise -
This past Saturday, my wife, her friend and myself went to Mt. Airy then to the Sands in PA. -
The tables at both places were $15 min -
I did not like what I saw - I did not bet 1 nickel all day -
I watched numerous ” dicesetters / advantage players / controlled shooters get their asses kicked by their own shooting -
I also watched novices clean house and have pretty respectable rolls -
You do what you want to do - it’s your money -
Personally, although I do like your style - you are HUGELY UNDERBANKROLLED FOR YOUR BETTING LEVEL -
The average bet level wuld be in the vicinity of 1-2% of your bankroll -
If your bankroll is $6,000 - your bets should be at the $5 - $10 table betting level - $ 32 across or $64 across -
Definately not $ 3,200 across !
I know that not everyone would like this strategy, shytt y’all know I do so what I need is positive and negative concret feed back on what I’m doing. Ratios or win/loss percentages. Lets say I went 3 days a week for 52 weeks and only wagered on myself. My buy-in is $3,000 a day, $15 min and buying the 10,4,5,9. My max betting on rolls would be 5 rolls including my comeout roll, bets off on come-out roll though. Is there anyway to figure this out or does someone need more info? If this helps I only use 3 sets 4/1-6/5, 3v-5/1 or 6/1, and 2v-1/4.
From what I gathered from myself is this: We all know it happens but how often do u really see a qualified shooter or yourself 7 out after the come-out roll when at a happy aka hot or choppy table?
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A fool’s errand perhaps, but worth a try IMHO.
