What is the house edge to place every number for an equal amount of units?
Thanks!

jeremiahj - 13 October 2011 05:05 PM

What is the house edge to place every number for an equal amount of units?
Thanks!

units being $5 each?
Depends if you buy the outside numbers and if the vig is paid before or after the number hits…

jeremiahj - 13 October 2011 05:05 PM

What is the house edge to place every number for an equal amount of units?
Thanks!

If the shooter were to PSO ( Point Seven - Out ) after you went up on him / her across -

I do believe that would equate to 100% !

RFB1 - 13 October 2011 06:17 PM

jeremiahj - 13 October 2011 05:05 PM

What is the house edge to place every number for an equal amount of units?
Thanks!

units being $5 each?
Depends if you buy the outside numbers and if the vig is paid before or after the number hits…

Yes 5$ units each; on a table in which buying the 4/10 requires vig to purchase it, and a vig when it hits.

It’s not a good idea to use the word “place” in any connection with what are apparently buy bets.

Instead of answering my question, everyone seemed to go on a pointless blabber about buy bets and vigs….
OK, I will try it again, very simple answer needed in a %%% form,

If I walk up to a craps table and say “Place the 4,5,9, and 10 for $5.00 each, and place the 6,8 for $6.00 each, what is the house % on this bet?

jeremiahj - 14 October 2011 04:41 PM

Instead of answering my question, everyone seemed to go on a pointless blabber about buy bets and vigs….
OK, I will try it again, very simple answer needed in a %%% form,

If I walk up to a craps table and say “Place the 4,5,9, and 10 for $5.00 each, and place the 6,8 for $6.00 each, what is the house % on this bet?

I am going to attempt to answer this in a sane and intelligent manner as a realistic craps player would -

You have $32 across -

Scenario #1 - The 7 is the next roll of the dice - PSO - What is the house edge / advantage on your $32 bet - $32 - or 100% -

Scenario #2 - A 2, 3 , 11 or 12 is the next roll of the dice - What is the house edge / advantage on your $32 bet - 0 -

Scenario #3 - The 4 or 10 is rolled on the next roll - You win $9 - your total at risk $ amount is now $23 - the house advantage / edge is now ( Math guys fill in the blanks here ) -

Scenario #4 - The 5 or 9 is rolled - OR the 6 or 8 eight is rolled - You win $7 - Your total at risk $ amount is now $25 -the house advantage / edge is now ( Math guys fill in the blanks here ) -

If you quit now while you are ahead the house advantage / edge is non-existant - it is in your favor -

However-

That is not the case - you are a ” player ” -

The longer that you stay and ” play ” supposedly - according to all the ” math guru’s ” you are going to lose a certain percentage of ALL of your overall wagers to the house -

Somebody has to pay for the electricity and the ” free ” booze and ” free ” room and ” free ” meals -

In the final analysis -

Ask yourself this question -

Does it really f*cking matter how much $ the house screws you out of -

The answer is ” How much $ can I screw them out of before they screw me or catch onto me !

jeremiahj - 13 October 2011 05:05 PM

What is the house edge to place every number for an equal amount of units?
Thanks!

OOPS !  -

Was thinking $22 IN not $32 ACROSS !

jeremiahj - 14 October 2011 02:08 PM

RFB1 - 13 October 2011 06:17 PM

jeremiahj - 13 October 2011 05:05 PM

What is the house edge to place every number for an equal amount of units?
Thanks!

units being $5 each?
Depends if you buy the outside numbers and if the vig is paid before or after the number hits…

Yes 5$ units each; on a table in which buying the 4/10 requires vig to purchase it, and a vig when it hits.

Was under the impression that the min ” Buy ” bets on the 4 and/or 10 are $25 - with a $1 vig up front -

And a subsequent $1 vig when and if the # was hit !

Could that be your ” Before and After ” ?

The house edge on 32 across is 1.25%

777

basicstrategy777 - 14 October 2011 09:01 PM

The house edge on 32 across is 1.25%
777

Am I to assume - what this means -

Is that for every $100 that is wagered on this bet -

The house cut / vig / profit / edge would be $1.25 - ?

Regardless of the outcome -

Win - lose - push ?

jeremiahj - 14 October 2011 04:41 PM

Instead of answering my question, everyone seemed to go on a pointless blabber about buy bets and vigs….
OK, I will try it again, very simple answer needed in a %%% form,

If I walk up to a craps table and say “Place the 4,5,9, and 10 for $5.00 each, and place the 6,8 for $6.00 each, what is the house % on this bet?

http://krigman.casinocitytimes.com/article/betting-$32-across-in-craps-59413

As 777 said The house edge on 32 across is 1.25%. If you were a math guy that would be all you would know to need!

Looks like a good bet when you say it that way doesn’t it? only 1.25%

The whole problem with looking at it like that is they are way to six things that kill that 1.25% edge the house has on you. It’s all those seven that can roll, on the next roll of the dice.

Math does not always tell the story when playing craps, and yes there are many answers for your question, beside just the percentage.

I like the answers $nakeEye$ gave you. Because he is trying to get you to see something besides just the percentage! Now the math guys are going to tell you that nothing changes the percentage the house has on you it always stays the same on the next roll of the dice they still have that 1.25% on you, and that is it.
Man that even sounds good to me, tell you find out that most players never make it pass four rolls of the dice, before they seven out.

So what does that tell you? The longer you stay up with your bets, the more likely you will see a seven. Now I’m not a math guy, and that is what it tells me! What every craps player is always fighting is the next roll of the dice and their greed. If you just managed to get one paying hit off your across bet, are you going to take all your bets down? Does greed keep your bets up, until you lose them all?

If I was you I would think about what $nakeEye$ wrote!!!!

Then I would thank 777 for the answer you wanted,, and got, in a plain and simple answer to your question!!!

Just think; they build all those big casinos on all those small house percentages they hold over every player,... Sounds to good to be true doesn’t it?

$nakeEye$ - 14 October 2011 06:35 PM

jeremiahj - 14 October 2011 04:41 PM

Instead of answering my question, everyone seemed to go on a pointless blabber about buy bets and vigs….
OK, I will try it again, very simple answer needed in a %%% form,

If I walk up to a craps table and say “Place the 4,5,9, and 10 for $5.00 each, and place the 6,8 for $6.00 each, what is the house % on this bet?

I am going to attempt to answer this in a sane and intelligent manner as a realistic craps player would -

You have $32 across -

Scenario #1 - The 7 is the next roll of the dice - PSO - What is the house edge / advantage on your $32 bet - $32 - or 100% -

Scenario #2 - A 2, 3 , 11 or 12 is the next roll of the dice - What is the house edge / advantage on your $32 bet - 0 -

Scenario #3 - The 4 or 10 is rolled on the next roll - You win $9 - your total at risk $ amount is now $23 - the house advantage / edge is now ( Math guys fill in the blanks here ) -

Scenario #4 - The 5 or 9 is rolled - OR the 6 or 8 eight is rolled - You win $7 - Your total at risk $ amount is now $25 -the house advantage / edge is now ( Math guys fill in the blanks here ) -

If you quit now while you are ahead the house advantage / edge is non-existant - it is in your favor -

However-

That is not the case - you are a ” player ” -

The longer that you stay and ” play ” supposedly - according to all the ” math guru’s ” you are going to lose a certain percentage of ALL of your overall wagers to the house -

Somebody has to pay for the electricity and the ” free ” booze and ” free ” room and ” free ” meals -

In the final analysis -

Ask yourself this question -

Does it really f*cking matter how much $ the house screws you out of -

The answer is ” How much $ can I screw them out of before they screw me or catch onto me !

Why even bothering giving house %‘s on anything then ? How about we just say the house edge on any game depends on how lucky you are… lol.
I agree with your latter statement though.

basicstrategy777 - 14 October 2011 09:01 PM

The house edge on 32 across is 1.25%

777

Thanks for the answer 777 I am shocked at how low it is considering how “high” the 4/10 place bets are.

House edge on 32 across is (12*1.52+10*4+10*6.67)/32=3.90%.
It is not 1.25% as previously indicated.