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Posted: 28 October 2011 03:34 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I’ve read some where on these forums about someone using a dice coach every time they go to Vegas. Well I’m going to Vegas in a couple weeks and would like to check one out. So do you guys have any recommendations?

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Posted: 28 October 2011 06:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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zmoney - 28 October 2011 03:34 AM

I’ve read some where on these forums about someone using a dice coach every time they go to Vegas. Well I’m going to Vegas in a couple weeks and would like to check one out. So do you guys have any recommendations?

Zmoney

Welcome to the board.

If you are going to Las Vegas, there is only one coach and thats Beau Parker.  Go to his website and do a little exploring and then for sure give him a call and schedule.  If you have a rental car you can go to his location, if not, he gladly arranges transportation to and from your casino.  If you poll members of this board or other message boards, you will find that 99% of those who have have had a class with Beau, always schedule a “Tune-Up” when we first arrive in Vegas.  Can’t go wrong.  http://www.dicecoach.com/


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Posted: 28 October 2011 06:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Thank you very much I will check his site out.

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Posted: 28 October 2011 04:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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eagledice - 28 October 2011 06:47 AM
zmoney - 28 October 2011 03:34 AM

I’ve read some where on these forums about someone using a dice coach every time they go to Vegas. Well I’m going to Vegas in a couple weeks and would like to check one out. So do you guys have any recommendations?

Zmoney

Welcome to the board.

If you are going to Las Vegas, there is only one coach and thats Beau Parker.  Go to his website and do a little exploring and then for sure give him a call and schedule.  If you have a rental car you can go to his location, if not, he gladly arranges transportation to and from your casino.  If you poll members of this board or other message boards, you will find that 99% of those who have have had a class with Beau, always schedule a “Tune-Up” when we first arrive in Vegas. Can’t go wrong.  http://www.dicecoach.com/


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Do not get me wrong here -

I am totally - familiar with and respectful of - Beau Parker - AKA - ” TheDiceCoach ” -

It is primarily because of his posted video entitled ” Shooting From the End ” -

That the ” Table End - Straight Out Spot ” is my preferred craps table shooting position - and I strive to have a 110% performance from my preferred position -

I have also watched numerous of his videos - which he offers for free and for sale on his web-site -

Now we come to the ” Nitty -Gritty ” -

If he is so f*ckin’ ” GOOD ” why do people have to continually go back to him for a ” Tune-Up ” -

Something, in my estimation, is definately wrong with this picture -

I totally do not grasp what is going on here - with the ” Tune-Up” bullshit -

I’ve taken numerous ” Professional ” courses / instructions / seminars / whatever -

Granted - we had ” table play ” practice sesions - where your ” performance ” was critiqued by others -

But at a ” No Additional Cost Factor ” -

As the age old adage goes -

” You can lead a horse to water - but you can’t make him drink it ” !

Did the GAME change that you need to ” TUNED INTO ” - did the dice sets change ?

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Posted: 28 October 2011 06:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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$nakeEye$ - 28 October 2011 04:52 PM

Now we come to the ” Nitty -Gritty ” -

If he is so f*ckin’ ” GOOD ” why do people have to continually go back to him for a ” Tune-Up ” -

For the same reason you go back and get a ‘tune up’ on any skill that you haven’t used for a while. Not everyone practices or plays on a regular basis.

After taking a lesson and making some money at the game, the next time you go back its ‘worth’ a couple bucks to get the tune up from the same mechanic who helped you last time.

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Posted: 28 October 2011 06:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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cf410 - 28 October 2011 06:13 PM
$nakeEye$ - 28 October 2011 04:52 PM

Now we come to the ” Nitty -Gritty ” -

If he is so f*ckin’ ” GOOD ” why do people have to continually go back to him for a ” Tune-Up ” -

For the same reason you go back and get a ‘tune up’ on any skill that you haven’t used for a while. Not everyone practices or plays on a regular basis.

After taking a lesson and making some money at the game, the next time you go back its ‘worth’ a couple bucks to get the tune up from the same mechanic who helped you last time.

I can deal with and part with a ” couple ” bucks -

BUT - a few hundred per hour -

That, my friend , is quite a couple more than a ” couple ” bucks !

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Posted: 29 October 2011 12:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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The reason I’d like to go is because I have been a practicing member of the controlled dice club for a couple years but have never had any formal training. I noticed on his site he requires you to have already attended his basics course before you can attend a tune up session. The thing is though I don’t need any lessons on odds and different bets because I already have a firm grip on that. I just need some input/coaching on my delivery. So do you know if its possible to just take the tune-up??? Does he make any exceptions? I will still call just wondering what others experience has been.

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Posted: 29 November 2011 11:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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The dice coach is a fraud and there is no other way to say it.  Any person who’s mato is see a craps bet a craps is a joke.  I live in Vegas and his reputation in and out of the casinos is that he is a fraud and if you ever see him at the tables to bet on the don’t.  There is a professional craps player in Vegas who has teams that travel around the country playing craps and he gives lessons when he is in town and if you practice dice control and get good he will put you on one of his teams.  He is low key and goes under the name of Doctor Dice (The Dice Doctor).  All the pit bosses have heard of him but none of the casinos know who he is as he goes under the radar so to speak.  I don’t have the slightest idea of how to get a hold of him but I hear he sometimes runs adds on craigs list looking for students to join his teams and occasionally sells table as well.  If you ever run into him he is the one to take lessons on dice control from not the dice coach or golden touch craps as both are well known ripoffs.

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Posted: 30 November 2011 08:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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man on a mission - 29 November 2011 11:54 PM

The dice coach is a fraud and there is no other way to say it. Any person who’s mato is see a craps bet a craps is a joke. I live in Vegas and his reputation in and out of the casinos is that he is a fraud and if you ever see him at the tables to bet on the don’t. There is a professional craps player in Vegas who has teams that travel around the country playing craps and he gives lessons when he is in town and if you practice dice control and get good he will put you on one of his teams. He is low key and goes under the name of Doctor Dice (The Dice Doctor). All the pit bosses have heard of him but none of the casinos know who he is as he goes under the radar so to speak. I don’t have the slightest idea of how to get a hold of him but I hear he sometimes runs adds on craigs list looking for students to join his teams and occasionally sells table as well. If you ever run into him he is the one to take lessons on dice control from not the dice coach or golden touch craps as both are well known ripoffs.

man on a mission - 30 November 2011 12:31 AM

Frank and Dom are both frauds I seen them both play at least a 100 times in Vegas and not one roll over 9. The five count is worthless and the captain is a figure of there imagination. I have had dinner with Frank and he laughed that people are such suckers by taking his classes and the five count.

Man on a Mission.

Well you just slammed Beau Parker, the Dice Coach. Over on the 5 count thread you bash Frank and Dom (thread above), I just curious who is next on you “Mission” ? Don’t forget “Heavy”, or “The Craps Coachs ( meyer and Denver,Co)” and I am truly shocked that you have not yet mashed Jerry P of PARR.

This board is for members who truly want to expand there ability in playing craps. Its purpose is Knowledge, Assistance, Camaraderie, Casino Expediences and Some times Humorous Squabbles.

Take your “Mission” and your apparent shilling for The Dice Doctor and go hammer somewhere else.

Just my opinion…..

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Posted: 30 November 2011 08:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Noted author Stanford Wong wrote that Beau Parker was able to spot a problem in his grip/delivery at their only session together, in Wong on Dice.

The scuttlebutt I read is that Parker refused to join Scobolette’s Golden Touch organization and that started a competition of sorts.

If many people want to see Parker, his pricing is going to reflect supply and demand.

Man on a Mission has good advice about checking LV Craigslist.  There are a bunch of dice coaches on the internet.

Surely, after this many years, some of the stable of dice trainers working for others have set out on their own and are available for a tune-up session.

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Posted: 30 November 2011 12:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Stanford Wong doesn’t play craps anymore for a reason.  Go and listen to his interview on Bob Dancers show podcast on his internet weekly show its in the archives and is recent.  while I’m sure there are some honest dice instructors out there the dice coach is not one of them.  He is a nice guy but he is not a winning player in craps.  Ask any of the locals in Vegas who watch him play which by the way is very rare.  He is known in Vegas to take students out to the casinos and to bet on the don’t knowing they will crap out and tells all students if you see a crap bet a crap.  He makes more money teaching suckers and giving lessons than he has ever made at craps.  He is considered a joke in the crap world and among dice setters in Vegas.  Even the casinos love for him to walk up to the tables as they know he is a fraud and will lose 99% of the time.  If you are going to take lessons find a teacher who is a professional not an old hack.

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Posted: 30 November 2011 12:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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well, well, well eagledice ruffled your feathers a little bit huh..  Oh the truth hurts doesn’t it eaglewiseee but the truth is that both of those groups should be put on blast fro ripping off dice setters as neither of them are successful dice setters and are ripping players off presenting to be accomplished dice setters when in truth they are not.  They have lost more money than they have ever won playing craps and make money by giving suckers lessons.  The only statement you said that is true and has meaning is that everyone has an opinion and you have yours.  Unfortunately opinion’s are like ass holes everyone has one and I’m sure you can read between the lines and figure out what we think of you and your opinion.

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Posted: 30 November 2011 02:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Furthermore eagleeye my moniker man on a mission refers to the fact that when I took up dice control years ago my mission was to be the first to make one million using dice control.  Just for your information I’m well on my way with total overall winning of 789,985 dollars with a 500 dollar buy in and a stop loss of 300 so I must be doing something right.  Furthermore I don’t know Dr. Dice although I have heard about him and his professional teams playing in Vegas, Atlantic City and Tunica.  His exploits are well known through out crap circles world wide but they keep a very low profile and are under the radar so to speak at the casinos.  I would love to meet him and would most certainly take lessons from him if I ever as do he is what legends are made of.  I was lucky enough the other night to see what we were told (by the pit boss after they had cashed in) was one of his teams take down a casino in Tunica for over 360,000 dollars in one hour and twenty min with a display of the finest controlled shooting I have ever witnessed.  I will post about this in the near future on the appropriate board when I get time as it was truly something to see.

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Posted: 30 November 2011 07:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Man on a Mission


Well, well, well.  You join a board on a Tuesday, then blast away at several dice teachers and such on Wednesday.  Interesting.

In your mind you think that you have “ruffled” my feathers, in addition to call me an A=hole.  Well, first of all, you don’t know me, but if we were friends, I probably would agree with you…..sometimes I can be one, butt then again we all can.

You mention that your mission is to be the first Dice Controller to earn a million dollars and are 80% of the way there.

Maybe yes, maybe no.  I’m not getting into a pissing contest with you, but if you are as good as claim to be, why bother with this board (brag) and most of all, don’t you want to stay under the radar and continue to climb and get that final 20%.

It really appears suspect with a new member joins and within one day levels personal attacks towards Instructors, makes interesting claims about earnings, heaps praises towards an other teacher/player about his ability and earnings, then ends up his 6th thread that maybe he “may” or “may not” post a trip report of these superhero craps players on the “appropriate” board ( this one ?).

Well, you did not ruffle my feathers.  Having been on this board for a several months and a member for a few years on other boards we have all seen new members jump in, stir things up and then in a flicker they are long gone on to a new adventure.

Hey, if its all true about your winnings, congrats and keep up the good work.  If its a load of Horse Manure, and all our opinions are our own, don’t step in it on the way out the door…..........


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Posted: 30 November 2011 07:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Oh no eageleye has spoken and we all can tell he is upset.  Isn’t that too bad just imagine what he is like at the tables.  You are right about one thing you are the ass—— and you can go back and crawl up the ass you came out of cus I personally don’t give a damn what you may think I tell it like it is with no sugar coating and if you don’t like don’t read the post.  You a chicken feeder chick chick chick

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Posted: 30 November 2011 07:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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man on a mission - 30 November 2011 07:23 PM

Oh no eageleye has spoken and we all can tell he is upset.  Isn’t that too bad just imagine what he is like at the tables.  You are right about one thing you are the ass—— and you can go back and crawl up the ass you came out of cus I personally don’t give a damn what you may think I tell it like it is with no sugar coating and if you don’t like don’t read the post.  You a chicken feeder chick chick chick

Yes - I must - most certainly - and readily admit - YOU got EagleDice - TOTALLY upset -

And yet - YOU - maintained total control and professionalism with your response -

Well - ” Man on Mars ” -  or ” Mission Unaccomplished ” -

You just showed the world / this forum your true colors - AND - they are remarkablly close to the UPS trucks colors -

Sh*t Brown -

Perhaps sometime when you mature - one could possibly have an intelligent conversation with you -

However -

In the meantime - go into a corner and play with yourself - that should you give you a mission that you might be able to accomplish !

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