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As a point of interest, I can think of a situation where, as the shooter, you can make a PL bet when the buck is white…...know what that might be ?
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As another point of interest, there does not need to be a point in order for the puck to be white. Conversely, the puck can be black when there is an established point.
Okay kaysirtap -
You have my undivided attention - I would appreciate a viable explanation to the above highlighted response of yours !
As another point of interest, there does not need to be a point in order for the puck to be white. Conversely, the puck can be black when there is an established point.
Okay kaysirtap -
You have my undivided attention - I would appreciate a viable explanation to the above highlighted response of yours !
It is the placement of the puck that determines the point, not whether it is “On” or “Off”. Of course, when there is no point, the puck goes in the DC. The “On” and “Off” apply to the bets within the Come boxes/register/whatever-you-want-to-call-it. So, with no point (and the puck in the DC), but all bets such as Place bets, Buy bets, and Come odds working on the come-out, the dealer could simply turn the puck to the “On” position. The reason you rarely see this is because it confuses some people, so they simply use those small “On” buttons to put on top of each person’s bet (one per person is usually enough).
Conversely, if for example there was only one guy on a side betting only Place bets who wanted all of his bets off in the middle of a roll, instead of putting the small “Off” button on one of his bets, the dealer could simply turn the puck over to the “Off” side while it is still on the point. But again… you will rarely see this. It is less confusing for players to just use the small button.
I’m sure there are many dealers that don’t know this… the situation doesn’t come up all that often.
It is the placement of the puck that determines the point, not whether it is “On” or “Off”. Of course, when there is no point, the puck goes in the DC. The “On” and “Off” apply to the bets within the Come boxes/register/whatever-you-want-to-call-it. So, with no point (and the puck in the DC), but all bets such as Place bets, Buy bets, and Come odds working on the come-out, the dealer could simply turn the puck to the “On” position. The reason you rarely see this is because it confuses some people, so they simply use those small “On” buttons to put on top of each person’s bet (one per person is usually enough).
Conversely, if for example there was only one guy on a side betting only Place bets who wanted all of his bets off in the middle of a roll, instead of putting the small “Off” button on one of his bets, the dealer could simply turn the puck over to the “Off” side while it is still on the point. But again… you will rarely see this. It is less confusing for players to just use the small button.
I’m sure there are many dealers that don’t know this… the situation doesn’t come up all that often.
Dance! Dance! I’d give you an E for effort, but its just not worth it. Even the dealers don’t know what they are supposed to do, but you do… ooook.
Even the dealers don’t know what they are supposed to do, but you do… ooook.
That’s true, believe it or not. I’m not saying that dealers are supposed to know this or do this. But I do know some things that some dealers don’t. And I’m sure some dealers could teach me a thing or two. This thing about the puck is a small detail that often doesn’t get taught to dealers. Some dealers know it… some don’t. If you choose not to believe me, that’s fine too… but that would be a rather odd thing for me to just make up for the fun of it, don’t you think?
While we’re hijacking this thread…
And speaking of some things dealers don’t know, or don’t answer correctly…
The shooter has the dice. A guy walks up to the table with a $100 bill and puts on the Pass Line and says “money plays”. The dice are in the air. The guy with the $100 bill on the PL then says, “Out of that $100, I want a $10 yo.” The bet is booked. The dice land. Winner-7. How much should the dealer hand off to the player?
Granted, many dealers… and likely many of you will not be familiar with how it works when money plays, and perhaps that’s why so many dealers get the answer wrong. In this case, the bet won… so the player gets to keep the $100 bill, but gets paid in checks/chips. Many places are not permitted to let money play because of accounting purposes (taxes).
The shooter has the dice. A guy walks up to the table with a $100 bill and puts on the Pass Line and says “money plays”. The dice are in the air. The guy with the $100 bill on the PL then says, “Out of that $100, I want a $10 yo.” The bet is booked. The dice land. Winner-7. How much should the dealer hand off to the player?
$80. The player ended up with a $90 winning PL bet and a losing $10 yo, and should therefore have $180 in his hand after the payoff. He keeps his C-note and so can be paid only $80 to come to that total.
kaysirtap - 10 January 2012 11:49 PM
Granted, many dealers… and likely many of you will not be familiar with how it works when money plays, and perhaps that’s why so many dealers get the answer wrong. In this case, the bet won… so the player gets to keep the $100 bill, but gets paid in checks/chips. Many places are not permitted to let money play because of accounting purposes (taxes).
I presume that in such a place, if there is not sufficient time to replace the money with chips, the dealer would call “no action”? In any event, how does the dealer show the camera the $100 bill was split between two bets without replacing it?
$80 is the correct answer. Some dealers say $90 (either forgetting to take out the $10 yo, or forgetting that there’s only $90 on the PL), some over-think it and say $70 (to replace the lost yo). And of course, some say $80.
The Midnight Skulker - 11 January 2012 02:15 AM
In any event, how does the dealer show the camera the $100 bill was split between two bets without replacing it?
If there wasn’t enough time to split the bill, I don’t believe any such proof would be given to the cameras.
In any event, how does the dealer show the camera the $100 bill was split between two bets without replacing it?
If there wasn’t enough time to split the bill, I don’t believe any such proof would be given to the cameras.
Were I dealing and had to come up with an answer on the fly I would pay the line with 3 green and 5 red, then remove 4 red and tap one of the “C&E” Es with 2 of them. If a suit were handy I would also call him/her over to explain the situation while going through the motions. This way I am drawing attention to the fact that I am intentionally “underpaying” the apparent $100 line bet. I’m sure Mission Control would ask me (or the suit) later what I was doing if they couldn’t figure it out.
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