I too was a dice control skeptic. I knew it could be done, I just didn’t know if I (or anybody else) could actually do it.
So I started practicing and eventually, after about 30,000 practice throws, I was good.

But, I’m an engineer and a scientist. Seeming like it works vs working are two different things. So I calculated and graphed the normal distribution of roll lengths, then I throw another 10,000 practice rolls, then I graphed my roll length against the random data. The graph clearly showed that i was consistently having roll lengths of about 8% better than normal distribution.

To answer the question, I like the 2V set. I love the guy that said he doesn’t worry about the type of dice he uses, he lets the house pick the set. LOL

Lee
Orlando

Just practicing at home right now but I like the Hardways and 3V. Get lots of 6’ and 8’s with the 3V.

The two sets I like are the 7-Set for the come-out roll, and I prefer the 2V set to make 4’s & 10’s because they pay better odds.

I like my horizontal six’s and 2v sets.  Just had my first real good INFLUENCE SESSION, well three really played at 3 casinos that had a good rep for good bounce. I toke half my Blackjack bankroll of $5000 and headed to a craps tables.  I was just about splitting the 2v horizontal 6’s and seven’s set. Usually having 2 dollar bets.  Was up to $1724 when It was all said and done.  But I love betting the horn…. Best bet other than the fire bet.  There was just me and two-four other rollers most of the time. They would roll sometimes, but usually just pass me the dice and bet what I bet.  Played for hours don’t even know how long.  Had about an hour and a half of losing at very end so I decided to call it quits while I was ahead.  My hand was HURTING… Does that happen to any other D.I.‘s But anyway I started getting heat fast…  Do not hate me for this, but when I got heat I waited for the other rollers to have big bets and I would seven set it.  Better them lose than me right.  I mean they gonna lose anyway right might as well be sooner than later and right when I’m getting heat than not right.  Survival of the fittest right…  Or in the gambling world survival of the smartest right.  Gotta do what I gotta do sorry but that just how it is…... Does anybody else do that also…...  I do it in blackjack when I got heat instead of playing to make the dealer bust I will try to play to make him win when other players have big bets out so there bottom line isn’t messed with and I can continue to play and be welcomed back with open arms right. right.  Sorry bout the run on

crapsbjrou - 13 December 2010 07:37 AM

I like my horizontal six’s and 2v sets.  Just had my first real good INFLUENCE SESSION, well three really played at 3 casinos that had a good rep for good bounce. I toke half my Blackjack bankroll of $5000 and headed to a craps tables.  I was just about splitting the 2v horizontal 6’s and seven’s set. Usually having 2 dollar bets.  Was up to $1724 when It was all said and done.  But I love betting the horn…. Best bet other than the fire bet.  There was just me and two-four other rollers most of the time. They would roll sometimes, but usually just pass me the dice and bet what I bet.  Played for hours don’t even know how long.  Had about an hour and a half of losing at very end so I decided to call it quits while I was ahead.  My hand was HURTING… Does that happen to any other D.I.‘s But anyway I started getting heat fast…  Do not hate me for this, but when I got heat I waited for the other rollers to have big bets and I would seven set it.  Better them lose than me right.  I mean they gonna lose anyway right might as well be sooner than later and right when I’m getting heat than not right.  Survival of the fittest right…  Or in the gambling world survival of the smartest right.  Gotta do what I gotta do sorry but that just how it is…... Does anybody else do that also…...  I do it in blackjack when I got heat instead of playing to make the dealer bust I will try to play to make him win when other players have big bets out so there bottom line isn’t messed with and I can continue to play and be welcomed back with open arms right. right.  Sorry bout the run on

This is the most retarded post I have ever read. I feel like slapping you right now.

I use the hardway set 2,2 3,3 4,4 5,5 but if I can her the pit boss or staff seeing what I am doing I can change to a 6,1and 3,4 or 2,5 and 3,4 or 2,5 and 6,1 to keep them guessing again.

As long as you are not a douche, and tip, they will not give you a hard time.

As far as dice controllers… yes, it gives you an edge long term…. but then you say the fire bets are a great bet. lol.  Then again, I sounded the same before I woke up, read a few books, and started thinking logically.

I dont think it is a coincidence that I won more money, and had less of a draw down ever since I woke up and realized how bad the crazy crapper bets.  Was kind of laughing when I saw another table… people couldnt throw the money fast enough, at times, throwing $30 on box cars. etc. lol.  The stickman could not hand the stacks of nickels to the boxman fast enough.

I agree with Aero, if you tip the dealers just a $1 here and there the heat usually dissapates.  With the economy down the toilet and casino business down I find less and less douche bag dealers but they are still available.  I use the Hard Way set.  If one die goes off axis you are safe and this will happen almost half the time, if they both stay on axis you have a 1 in four chance of seeing the seven and if both go off it’s 50/50. If you can deliver the dice softly to the base of the wall avoiding the diamonds you can reduce the chance of both dice going off axis. If anybody can truly contol the dice I think they are few and far apart.  If the Casinos were concerned they would have already banned setting the dice. I think they find dicesetters amusing and as long as u don’t take too long to set them and u hit the back wall it’s all good.
Bones

Now I am experimenting like crazy I have 12 set ups that I use after the come out roll.I just like to keep everyone guessing and am still going to experiment until I have mastered every combo.On the come out I call it the 6,5 shift the six and five are rotating so you can hit 7s or 11s.Its very successful

If I’m doing a “hit n’ run” on the “right side” I’ll do a wild quick set 2 kisses 1 - this is essentially a modded 3V - because I’m just kissing 2-1, the numbers that the box sees on my dice faces will vary from roll to roll - it doesn’t look like I’m setting and I can set the dice transparently as I pull them to me from the stick.  If I’m working a table I’ll usually go darkside - 2V on comeout with 7 set during the point cycle.  I’ll also do this if I have to clear a table to make room before the team “stagger approaches” for positions….or if I get the signal that there’s a “schill” opp with a backend.