Hello.  I have a question:  On a $15 min. Craps table, does all bets at the same time have to be $15?  For example:  If I bet $15 on the Pass Line, and I want to bet on the Field, does it also have to be $15?  Or can any subsequent bets be less than $15?  Thanks…

Each bet must be at least $15 with the exception of proposition bets (in the middle of the table), the odds bet, and bets for the dealers… anything else I’m forgetting?

Some houses enforce table minimums for odds.

In Jersey, the state regulates the minimum odds.  The least you can bet is 1X the bet.

The Midnight Skulker - 28 January 2012 08:56 PM

Some houses enforce table minimums for odds.

epenak - 28 January 2012 09:41 PM

In Jersey, the state regulates the minimum odds.  The least you can bet is 1X the bet.

Oops… yeah… what they said.

epenak - 28 January 2012 09:41 PM

In Jersey, the state regulates the minimum odds.  The least you can bet is 1X the bet.

If this is true they are not enforcing it. I have played many times and put less than 1x the table minimum on the odds.
Can anybody verify this regulation?

Fred

I looked this up in the NJ Casino commission rules shown below. I looks like the casino has the OPTION of making the odds bet 1x the minimum bet.

19:47-1.6 Supplemental wagers made after come out roll in support of pass, don’t pass, come and don’t come bets (taking and laying odds)
(a) Whenever a player makes a Pass Bet and a total of 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10 is thrown on the come out roll, the player shall have the right to make a supplemental wager in support of the Pass Bet which may be limited by the casino licensee to an amount that is equal to the amount of the original Pass Bet.

Every casino has a rule book for each game they offer. All casino rule books are not the same e.g.  the rules for craps will be different.

I once had a dispute at Foxwoods many years ago about what happened at a blackjack table and raised hell about it. I saw their
rule book on the game of blackjack that covered that particular issue.  I can’t remember the exact issue but it had to do with being dealt a card when I did not think I should have received it.

Some casinos have rules on the games they offer to the public and are normally available at the gaming commission office. They are not as thourough as their official game book but should answer most of your questions on a particular game.

In my class I would show the students the rule books that Foxwood and Mohegan Sun, at that time,  had available for the public and how some of the rules were different for the same game. I told them whenever they enter a casino to play a particular game to go to the gaming commission office and see of they had a rule book that was available to the public. It is important to know the rules.

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basicstrategy777 - 02 February 2012 10:56 AM

Every casino has a rule book for each game they offer. All casino rule books are not the same e.g.  the rules for craps will be different.

I should think, though, that departures from the standard rules would have to be posted rather than concealed in a rule book.  For example, I would have a real problem with a casino changing the payoff on Place 5|9 bets from 7:5 to 4:3 and noting the change only in its rule book.  IMHO rules relegated to the “House Bible” (i.e. not posted) should be limited to irregularities: erroneously exposed cards, no-roll calls, machine malfunctions, and the like.

The Midnight Skulker - 02 February 2012 11:17 AM

I should think, though, that departures from the standard rules would have to be posted rather than concealed in a rule book.

Pechanga Resort & Casino in SoCal attempts to do that with a small placard at their Card Craps tables. It is a good idea but they still do not cover everything. And it takes a bit of time to read them damn thing.

Now, what are “standard craps rules”?

one example
In Nevada. “hardways are working unless called off”.
Not when I played in AC. They are just the opposite. They refused to pay my hard6 on a come out roll.
Learned the hardway!

It was not posted, in 2008, maybe now? I doubt it.
Makes no business sense with a -1/11 edge

FredP - 02 February 2012 09:04 AM

I have played many times and put less than 1x the table minimum on the odds.

Fred is definitely right vis-a-vis laying odds on don’t bets.

The Midnight Skulker - 02 February 2012 11:17 AM

basicstrategy777 - 02 February 2012 10:56 AM

Every casino has a rule book for each game they offer. All casino rule books are not the same e.g.  the rules for craps will be different.

I should think, though, that departures from the standard rules would have to be posted rather than concealed in a rule book.  For example, I would have a real problem with a casino changing the payoff on Place 5|9 bets from 7:5 to 4:3 and noting the change only in its rule book.  IMHO rules relegated to the “House Bible” (i.e. not posted) should be limited to irregularities: erroneously exposed cards, no-roll calls, machine malfunctions, and the like.

I would tend to agree with you for the most part midnite. but the rules can be significantly different for blackjack
from casino to casino and not posted anywhere.

Crap rules are fairly universal but even there ....there are some differences….payout “for”  “to”.....hardways working west coast/not working east coast…...hop bets available but not on layout…...proposition bet maximums unknown unless you ask…..etc.

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I’ve never seen single odds enforced in AC.  I tried betting half odds in Detroit, and was not allowed to do it.

epenak - 28 January 2012 09:41 PM

In Jersey, the state regulates the minimum odds.  The least you can bet is 1X the bet.

I concur in NJ -

At the $3 tables at the TP and ACH you need to bet at least $3 behind the line as odds -

That is table min at these joints -

I would venture that on the 5 and/or 9 at a $5 table - the odds bet would be min $6 - even with a $3 min PL bet -

Where on the 4/10 or 6/8 would be $5 ! - also even with a $3 min bet !