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This maybe a silly question but can you hop more than one number at a time? Say on the come out if I want to hop all 10 of the combos for the inside #‘s is that allowed? Also what is the Max bet for a hop bet at a normal table?
Yes you can ....and the max bet is the table max.
You would be betting $10 to win either $15 or $30 and you would win on average one out of every 3 times. not a great return
Falcon - I was responding to zmoney above.
And regardless of zmoney’s scenario or yours, it is a bad bet - the return versus the risk of a 7 or eleven or craps hitting is not worth it.
I am all for doing something out of the bix every now and then. And there are other ways of aggravating a dealer than placing bad bets. Your way, he will probably just smirk at you and take your money.
JHPA: Sorry for the misunderstanding. Two things here, if you will: first, I do the bet in the middle of a point… not at come out, and second, as of right now, I have never lost on that bet yet. I am sure that it will catch up with me though. I just do not do it very often. As far as the return, my bank at home pays me the same interest, you know, I give them $10, and the next day my account is credited with $16 - doesn’t yours do that too.?
falcon
The piddling interest my bank gives me, it gives to me 365 days a year. It does not give it to me for ten days a month and then wipes out my principle the other 20 days. That is the way you calculate return.
This maybe a silly question but can you hop more than one number at a time? Say on the come out if I want to hop all 10 of the combos for the inside #‘s is that allowed? Also what is the Max bet for a hop bet at a normal table?
Yes you can ....and the max bet is the table max.
You would be betting $10 to win either $15 or $30 and you would win on average one out of every 3 times. not a great return
Falcon - I was responding to zmoney above.
And regardless of zmoney’s scenario or yours, it is a bad bet - the return versus the risk of a 7 or eleven or craps hitting is not worth it.
I am all for doing something out of the bix every now and then. And there are other ways of aggravating a dealer than placing bad bets. Your way, he will probably just smirk at you and take your money.
JHPA: Sorry for the misunderstanding. Two things here, if you will: first, I do the bet in the middle of a point… not at come out, and second, as of right now, I have never lost on that bet yet. I am sure that it will catch up with me though. I just do not do it very often. As far as the return, my bank at home pays me the same interest, you know, I give them $10, and the next day my account is credited with $16 - doesn’t yours do that too.?
falcon
The piddling interest my bank gives me, it gives to me 365 days a year. It does not give it to me for ten days a month and then wipes out my principle the other 20 days. That is the way you calculate return.
Sounds like a personal problem or show them what real growth is by having them finance your craps gambling. Offer them the growth of the Place bets vs your winnings on the PL/FO at 5X odds. That should generate some real interest.
This maybe a silly question but can you hop more than one number at a time? Say on the come out if I want to hop all 10 of the combos for the inside #‘s is that allowed? Also what is the Max bet for a hop bet at a normal table?
Yes you can ....and the max bet is the table max.
You would be betting $10 to win either $15 or $30 and you would win on average one out of every 3 times. not a great return
Falcon - I was responding to zmoney above.
And regardless of zmoney’s scenario or yours, it is a bad bet - the return versus the risk of a 7 or eleven or craps hitting is not worth it.
I am all for doing something out of the bix every now and then. And there are other ways of aggravating a dealer than placing bad bets. Your way, he will probably just smirk at you and take your money.
JHPA: Sorry for the misunderstanding. Two things here, if you will: first, I do the bet in the middle of a point… not at come out, and second, as of right now, I have never lost on that bet yet. I am sure that it will catch up with me though. I just do not do it very often. As far as the return, my bank at home pays me the same interest, you know, I give them $10, and the next day my account is credited with $16 - doesn’t yours do that too.?
falcon
The piddling interest my bank gives me, it gives to me 365 days a year. It does not give it to me for ten days a month and then wipes out my principle the other 20 days. That is the way you calculate return.
Sounds like a personal problem or show them what real growth is by having them finance your craps gambling. Offer them the growth of the Place bets vs your winnings on the PL/FO at 5X odds. That should generate some real interest.
falcon
Can anyone explain to me what Falcon is talking about?
This maybe a silly question but can you hop more than one number at a time? Say on the come out if I want to hop all 10 of the combos for the inside #‘s is that allowed? Also what is the Max bet for a hop bet at a normal table?
Yes you can ....and the max bet is the table max.
You would be betting $10 to win either $15 or $30 and you would win on average one out of every 3 times. not a great return
Falcon - I was responding to zmoney above.
And regardless of zmoney’s scenario or yours, it is a bad bet - the return versus the risk of a 7 or eleven or craps hitting is not worth it.
I am all for doing something out of the bix every now and then. And there are other ways of aggravating a dealer than placing bad bets. Your way, he will probably just smirk at you and take your money.
JHPA: Sorry for the misunderstanding. Two things here, if you will: first, I do the bet in the middle of a point… not at come out, and second, as of right now, I have never lost on that bet yet. I am sure that it will catch up with me though. I just do not do it very often. As far as the return, my bank at home pays me the same interest, you know, I give them $10, and the next day my account is credited with $16 - doesn’t yours do that too.?
falcon
The piddling interest my bank gives me, it gives to me 365 days a year. It does not give it to me for ten days a month and then wipes out my principle the other 20 days. That is the way you calculate return.
Sounds like a personal problem or show them what real growth is by having them finance your craps gambling. Offer them the growth of the Place bets vs your winnings on the PL/FO at 5X odds. That should generate some real interest.
falcon
Can anyone explain to me what Falcon is talking about?
ALL single roll bets are know as proposition bets or “prop bets”. So a hopping bet is a prop bet.
ie: $3 3-way SEVEN hopping= $1 on the decision 1/6 or 6/1, $1 on the decision 2/5 or 5/2, and $1 on the decision 3/4 or 4/3.
One can “hop” the decision 3/4 or 4/3 only, too; or “hop” the decision 2/3 or 3/2. But the call-out would be “hop the THREE, FOUR” and get your wager to the stick-man. He handles all wagers and payouts on prop bets.
Most decisions on the dice have a inverse twin and pay 15 to 1 odds. Decisions w/ a single out-come and are called “hopping” pay 30 to 1 odds (2/2, 3/3, 4/4, 5/5; hopping hard-ways) along w/ snake-eyes and boxcars. (1/1 and 6/6)
If I want a good laugh I ll call-out, “HARD TWELVE hopping!” and toss out a buck cheque. I alway get a good chuckle on that one. Can t get any harder on the TWELVE. ha ha ha
Do not get fancy with your bet calls because the dealer needs to repeat it back to you, called “booking the bet” so the bet can have action.
I have over 20 years experience dealing the game of craps in casinos and have heard “hop the 12” or “hop the 11” many, many times. Even “turning midnight” or “two for the turn”.
Beginners and seasoned players alike need to learn this.
How much?
$5
OK
What bet?
2 way FOUR.
$5 2 way four. You got a bet.
7Craps,
I agree on your called 2-way FOUR hopping, just not your wager. In most cases, but not all, casinos dont genally take or pay-out on the half dollar at most table games.
So the wager on a $2.50 on the decision of 2/2 and $2.50 on the decision 1/4 or 4/1, would be a result of a ” no bet from the stickman” and would require a correction on your behave.
Hardways wager are prop bets that are not a single roll wager; And FIELD wager are concidered “self service” prop bets. The reasoning is on the lay-out of the table. The FIELD that has a pay-out of even money, w/ exception to 2X and 3X on ACES and BOXCARS is serviced by YOUR dealer. The center prop bet have higher odds pay-out and must be booked though the stick-man as an accepted wager. This makes it harder for a player to past post a higher odds decision on a pay-out bet. That is to bet or increase a winning wager after a decision has been made w/out the knowledge of your dealer or stickman.
The cheats are being watch by everyone; even the dealers are being watched to ensure thay are not cheating.
Do not get fancy with your bet calls because the dealer needs to repeat it back to you, called “booking the bet” so the bet can have action.
I have over 20 years experience dealing the game of craps in casinos and have heard “hop the 12” or “hop the 11” many, many times. Even “turning midnight” or “two for the turn”.
Beginners and seasoned players alike need to learn this.
How much?
$5
OK
What bet?
2 way FOUR.
$5 2 way four. You got a bet.
7Craps,
I agree on your called 2-way FOUR hopping, just not your wager. In most cases, but not all, casinos dont genally take or pay-out on the half dollar at most table games.
So the wager on a $2.50 on the decision of 2/2 and $2.50 on the decision 1/4 or 4/1, would be a result of a ” no bet from the stickman” and would require a correction on your behave.
And you call yourself a “seasoned” craps dealer?
That $5 2-way four can be booked by saying “heavy on the easy 4.” Knowledgeable dealers will ask you if one is not specific. One can also book that bet as $2 each way with $1 change. Booking such bets specifically with the stickman is greatly appreciated and moves the game along nicely.
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