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1-Place either $1 or $5 in chips on the table and indicate to the dealer nearest you that you’d like to play the Fire Bet.
2-The shooter must make at least four individual “points” for you to win. A “point” is when the shooter rolls any number between four and ten, except for seven, and then rolls that number again before rolling a seven.
3-On the “come out” roll, during which the point is established, there is no impact on the Fire Bet if the shooter rolls a seven or “craps out” by rolling a two, three or 12. Otherwise, the player loses when the shooter rolls a seven.
4-Each individual point must be different than the last. For example, the point of eight only counts once no matter how many times the shooter hits it.
5- The player wins 25:1 for hitting four individual points, 250:1 for five individual points and 1000:1 for six individual points. Only the highest payout is given to the player when more than four points are hit.
While having a shot at winning $10,000 on a craps table for a $5 bet is exciting, this bet is easily the worst one on the layout, with a house edge of 21 to 25%, depending on the paytable.
Hi all, this is my first post on this forum…really nice to be here. And it’s great to check out the postings with everyone’s opinions and advice on craps.
I’ve been reading alot about the fire bet…thanks for the detailed explanation.
So, is this a Vegas only bet or is it also available in Atlantic City?
I usually play at Borgata…the table minimums get kinda high on the weekends, but I like the atmosphere there overall.
Foxwoods in CT offer the firebet as well.. I usually throw 1 dollar on it. I’ve seen a 6 button fire bet hit once and wasnt on it. Dont want that to happen again.
I have missed out on a 4 point roll a few times for not putting a dollar on this bet have had it pay 3 times for 4 numbers 25 dollars. would love to be at the table when someone had a 6 point run, super sweet if it would be me!
I have missed out on a 4 point roll a few times for not putting a dollar on this bet have had it pay 3 times for 4 numbers 25 dollars. would love to be at the table when someone had a 6 point run, super sweet if it would be me!
The guy that I saw hit it had 5 dollars on the fire bet and another 5 dollars on it for the dealers.. pretty sweet
funny thing was.. it was my first time going and i was playing the donts
The guy that I saw hit [the six-number fire bet] had 5 dollars on the fire bet and another 5 dollars on it for the dealers.. pretty sweet
funny thing was.. it was my first time going and i was playing the donts
One of the two 90-minute monster hands I have witnessed occurred 18 or so years ago at the Nugget in Carson City, NV. I was a hard-nosed wrong-sider at the time, wouldn’t jump ship for love nor money. I was not a hand-chaser, however, and so lost only $47. Not very satisfying considering all the black that was in other players’ racks, but a moral victory of sorts I suppose. In any event I quickly reconsidered my hard-nosiness.
It’s awful watching something like that happen while you are sucking your thumb, which is why I’ve taken the attitude “anything can happen at anytime with anyone”. It works out better for me in the long run as long as I can maintain enough discipline to leave when I have hit my “leave now!” amount when I’m down. When I first saw the fire bet I bet it most of the time. Of course when I didn’t I was the one to hit it- a baby one of 4 different points. A couple of weeks ago a fellow wheels himself up to the table in his wheel chair and through some interesting gymnastics rolled off a 5 point firebet. Never would have guessed he could throw the dice no less hit a fire. Again I wasn’t on it. I live in Vegas and am seeing it available in more casinos than a number of years ago. Station Casinos now have them around the city, but I first saw it over at the Rampart.
One of the two 90-minute monster hands I have witnessed occurred 18 or so years ago at the Nugget in Carson City, NV. I was a hard-nosed wrong-sider at the time, wouldn’t jump ship for love nor money.
It’s awful watching something like that happen while you are sucking your thumb, which is why I’ve taken the attitude “anything can happen at anytime with anyone”.
“The saddest words that e’er been heard: ‘It might have been.’” One feature of craps is that there is a bet or strategy that can win given any roll or sequence of rolls. The problem, obviously, is to select that bet/strategy before the rolls occur. My don’t method now includes a trigger for switching sides so I have less chance of getting annihilated by a single hot shooter. Of course I have no way of knowing if this would have saved me at the Carson City Nugget, but I think I would have had to be not only a hard-nosed masochist but also 180.000… degrees out of phase with the table to come out behind after a 90-minute hand.
Last month my wife and I were in Vegas at the Paris. It was early in the day and we were just drinking comps and playing slots when we heard these massive screams for joy. The second time we heard them I said we gotta check it out.
We made our way to the tables and three people had just hit the fire bet-6 points. All they had down was a buck and it came out to something like $5,000 a piece.
Every time I play from now on I’ll place the fire bet. You never know. Especially now that I’m starting to be able to influence the dice a bit.
Just came back from Horseshoe in Council Bluffs(Harrahs). I have been playing craps for two weeks now. Probably getting in about 2 hours a day at the casino. Before today, I saw two 5-point fire bets, both of which I had a dollar on.
Today I was at the table and I was down to about my last $50(I usually take around 200 to 300). I was playing pretty conservative, and before I know it the guy has 3 points up (the 4,9,10). He sets a 5 as the point, so I lay it for $35, losing money if he gets the point. He does, and then set the 8 as the point. I did the same thing with the rest of my money. Once again, he set the point, so I knew I was walking away with at least $250. I have nothing left to gamble, and he sets the 9 and makes his point. He then sets the 6 with a hard six, and got his point the next roll with another hard six. It was pretty exciting to see. I then had to stand around for over an hour to get my money as they take taxes out.
They gave out over $30,000 on that fire bet. There was a guy that had $25 chips on it. Some guys who came up to the hot table late were bitching, mentioning that the poor bastards were probably down half a mil.
So even though it may be a sucker bet, it’s also very exciting. It’s also like an added bonus. Assuming you’re betting the pass, not only are you making banks with your bets, but you also get a little something something on top. I enjoy it, regardless of how foolish of bet it is. The funny thing is I see the same people talking about how foolish this bet is and they’ll bet the field or bet the hardways. Sometimes you give up a big house edge to make some quick dough.
The fire bet is pretty exciting. In vegas you can make it up to $10 in most of the casinos that offer it.
The most exciting part is when you’ve hit 5 points, and you’ve established six points (not as easy as it might sound) everyone who has $10 on the fire bet will lay significant amounts of money against the 6th point. Clearly they only do this if you’re going for the 6th one.
Last time I did it in vegas was at the rio, had established the point at 5, which would have been the 6th in the series. 2 or 3 people at the opposite end of the table had layed $3,000 against the 5.
Not too tough to figure out the math, with a $10 fire bet they had already won $2,500.00. If i hit the point they’d have won $7,000 (lost the lay bet) and when I sevened out they won $4,500 instead of the $2,500. Good stuff.
Lots of tokes get dropped into your rack after rolls like that =)
The fire bet is pretty exciting. In vegas you can make it up to $10 in most of the casinos that offer it.
The most exciting part is when you’ve hit 5 points, and you’ve established six points (not as easy as it might sound) everyone who has $10 on the fire bet will lay significant amounts of money against the 6th point. Clearly they only do this if you’re going for the 6th one.
Last time I did it in vegas was at the rio, had established the point at 5, which would have been the 6th in the series. 2 or 3 people at the opposite end of the table had layed $3,000 against the 5.
Not too tough to figure out the math, with a $10 fire bet they had already won $2,500.00. If i hit the point they’d have won $7,000 (lost the lay bet) and when I sevened out they won $4,500 instead of the $2,500. Good stuff.
Lots of tokes get dropped into your rack after rolls like that =)
Hittingpoints,
Welcome to the board.
Twice I have hit 5 on the firebet, set the sixth point and did an immediate PSO. This was done at Harrahs Las Vegas and Greektown in Detroit. Now both times I was disappointed, but a 5 point firebet payoff is still sweet.
Now, my thoughts regarding laying the 6th point. In my mind, if I lay the 6th point, I feel that I have already given up and mentally I am shooting for Big Red. Now last year when I did the 2 5pointers the math says I should have layed the 6th point, but both times nerves kicked in and I actually shortrolled the dice. When that happens we all know what occurs. If I ever do get to that point again, I honestly say I need to feel posivitive and “Not do the Lay Bet”. One other note, this has never happened when I am Not the shooter, so I probably need to sit down and do the math on that.
What are your thoughts on laying the 6th when You are the shooter.
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