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Tell me a casino that allows you to make a lay bet of less than 40,30, 24.777
It’s happened to me a handful of times in Las Vegas and Atlantic City when I’ve screwed up and laid $30 against the 4 or 10 and was paid $15. That tends to wake up a bettor, especially after the fourth or fifth time.
Tell me a casino that allows you to make a lay bet of less than 40,30, 24.
It’s happened to me a handful of times in Las Vegas and Atlantic City when I’ve screwed up and laid $30 against the 4 or 10 and was paid $15. That tends to wake up a bettor, especially after the fourth or fifth time.
With a $15 DC going behind 5 at a double odds table I called, “Lay $45,” but handed the dealer only $40. The 5 missed a few rolls later and the dealer immediately informed me of the shortage, paying me only $26 on the odds. The way the scene played I am 100% convinced the dealer knew I was short a nickel all along, and I am 99.44% convinced she would have called for that nickel had the 5 made. That lone incident was a sufficient wake-up call for me; I have not walked into Harrah’s Reno since.
Tell me a casino that allows you to make a lay bet of less than 40,30, 24.
It’s happened to me a handful of times in Las Vegas and Atlantic City when I’ve screwed up and laid $30 against the 4 or 10 and was paid $15. That tends to wake up a bettor, especially after the fourth or fifth time.
With a $15 DC going behind 5 at a double odds table I called, “Lay $45,” but handed the dealer only $40. The 5 missed a few rolls later and the dealer immediately informed me of the shortage, paying me only $26 on the odds. The way the scene played I am 100% convinced the dealer knew I was short a nickel all along, and I am 99.44% convinced she would have called for that nickel had the 5 made. That lone incident was a sufficient wake-up call for me; I have not walked into Harrah’s Reno since.
I definitely wouldn’t have paid a tip. I may have tried the casino again (depending on whether they did anything else), but that dealer definitely needs a wake up call. She should have told you and helped you out. The few bucks she earned for the house cost them a customer. Sometimes I don’t get why the craps staff has such a vendetta against rollers. Most of the time, at least from what I have seen, craps bettors tend to be the best tokers.
The way the scene played I am 100% convinced the dealer knew I was short a nickel all along, and I am 99.44% convinced she would have called for that nickel had the 5 made.
... that dealer definitely needs a wake up call. She should have told you and helped you out. The few bucks she earned for the house cost them a customer. Sometimes I don’t get why the craps staff has such a vendetta against rollers.
Dealers, particularly rookies, feel they are between a rock and a hard place, and I suppose in many houses they are. As the face of the casino, players blame them for their losses, and there’s Hell to pay if they make a mistake in the house’s favor. They are also under constant scrutiny from the eye in the sky, and Lord help them if they make a mistake in the players’ favor. Consequently, IMHO, some dealers feel the need to seize every opportunity to give the house a little extra edge.
Example 1: On his first two hands the player next to me left a die short—as in it didn’t get past the middle of the table—on a roll. Both times the stick knocked the roll down (“No roll”), but upon reflection I think she noted that the result would have been, not the line point, but a box number. On his third hand that player again left a die way short on a roll, and the stick called a 7-out. This was at my usual haunt, where my word carries some weight, and I called a time out. After I explained the situation to a suit, whom I knew, I got the call reversed to a no roll. (BTW I did apologize to the young lady for possibly getting her in trouble. She actually became a pretty good dealer, and we got along great on subsequent visits.)
Example 2: I was rolling from about midway down the left side of the table, and on one toss a die stuck to my fingers and made it only to about the “O” of the right Come area. The stick called no roll, but then hesitated when the result was a 7-out. The box quickly resolved the issue by telling him, “You called a no roll.” Now that’s my kind of place!
cfriedel - 23 March 2011 11:41 PM
Most of the time, at least from what I have seen, craps bettors tend to be the best tokers.
Actually, blackjack is by far the game where dealers get the most tokes. That is why most houses split tokes among all dealers: to avoid having to schedule dealers to work the different games equally.
The way the scene played I am 100% convinced the dealer knew I was short a nickel all along, and I am 99.44% convinced she would have called for that nickel had the 5 made.
... that dealer definitely needs a wake up call. She should have told you and helped you out. The few bucks she earned for the house cost them a customer. Sometimes I don’t get why the craps staff has such a vendetta against rollers.
Dealers, particularly rookies, feel they are between a rock and a hard place, and I suppose in many houses they are. As the face of the casino, players blame them for their losses, and there’s Hell to pay if they make a mistake in the house’s favor. They are also under constant scrutiny from the eye in the sky, and Lord help them if they make a mistake in the players’ favor. Consequently, IMHO, some dealers feel the need to seize every opportunity to give the house a little extra edge.
Example 1: On his first two hands the player next to me left a die short—as in it didn’t get past the middle of the table—on a roll. Both times the stick knocked the roll down (“No roll”), but upon reflection I think she noted that the result would have been, not the line point, but a box number. On his third hand that player again left a die way short on a roll, and the stick called a 7-out. This was at my usual haunt, where my word carries some weight, and I called a time out. After I explained the situation to a suit, whom I knew, I got the call reversed to a no roll. (BTW I did apologize to the young lady for possibly getting her in trouble. She actually became a pretty good dealer, and we got along great on subsequent visits.)
Example 2: I was rolling from about midway down the left side of the table, and on one toss a die stuck to my fingers and made it only to about the “O” of the right Come area. The stick called no roll, but then hesitated when the result was a 7-out. The box quickly resolved the issue by telling him, “You called a no roll.” Now that’s my kind of place!
cfriedel - 23 March 2011 11:41 PM
Most of the time, at least from what I have seen, craps bettors tend to be the best tokers.
Actually, blackjack is by far the game where dealers get the most tokes. That is why most houses split tokes among all dealers: to avoid having to schedule dealers to work the different games equally.
I totally agree what you are saying about the dealers having to deal with both sides. With that said, it sounded like that particular dealer didn’t have a problem of which side they were on.
As for the tokes, it may be a difference of where we play. Where I go, it seems to me that craps people are throwing up dollar hardways and $5-10 PL bets for the dealers all the time. You also see them throw a few bucks to the table when they go. I know I do to round out my stack. I could see where BJ could have a lot of tokes too though. You get on a good roll and you can see a lot of tokes also. I am betting poker tables get them too. Seems like every hand you see one or two go to the box.
Hello everyone, I am new here. I was in the war in Afghanistan and was badly wounded in December 2001. It if hard for me to make a living, I play craps quite a bit.
Here is how I play the dark side.
I play the don’t pass for 2 units and then lay full odds.
Then, I play the don’t come for 1 unit and lay full odds.
I keep playing the don’t come until the 7 out is rolled.
If a don’t bet is taken off because that number was rolled, I then increase the don’t come bet by 1 unit.
If the don’t pass number is rolled I increase the don’t pass bet to 1 unit above the highest bet size that I’m currently using.
When the 7 comes out I see if that series made a profit. If it did, I reset the bet size to 1 unit. If it did not, I increase the don’t pass bet size by 1 unit above what the highest unit size is right now.
My goal is to make $1,000. I play until I reach my goal. Some days this happens in twenty minutes. Other days it takes twenty hours.
I used to use hedge bets, sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t. I’m still not convinced if this is the right/wrong thing to do. I hedge on the 11 and 12, usually $1 on the 12 and $2 on the 11. If both of these have lost many rolls in a row then I will increase the 12 to $2 and the 11 to $4.
Sometimes I hedge the 7 on the come out. How many times has the shooter rolled 3, 4, or 5 7s in a row on the come out? I hedge the 7 by laying the 4 or the 10. Then I hedge that bet by betting the hardway for that number, so that only 2 combinations can beat me instead of 3. If this bet has lost many rolls I increase it a little.
Most of the time this is a fun way to play. Once in a while a table gets hot and you want to kill yourself. I usually just leave that table.
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