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I am fairly new to the game and still learning. I am friendly at the table, asking some questions (if others seem friendly as well) and trying to learn where I can.
So the last time I was there, it was my roll. I rolled a few times and was doing well. I think I had hit one point and was working on my 2nd one. I had hit a bunch of numbers.
So I was feeling pretty happy. As they were placing peoples’ bets, I chatted with the guy next to me as i was waiting for the dice. When the stickman put them in front of me, I stopped talking and shot the dice and 7’d out. This old timer guy on the other side of the table got really upset and went on about how I shouldn’t have been talking while I was shooting, why would someone talk when they were getting ready to shoot, I should have been concentrating, etc etc etc. I didn’t say anything but I didn’t like it.
And then throughout the next few rolls, the guy KEPT grumbling (he was about 3 positions away from me, almost across the table) on and on semi-under-his-breath about “why would you be talking when you shoulda been shooting?” I was aggravated at that point and wanted to say something, but wasn’t quite sure of the etiquette/culture. I didn’t say/do anything and he eventually stopped.
So was I wrong? Was he wrong? I am a 50-something woman, if that matters to the question. I didn’t want to get into anything with him, but I really didn’t like being singled out and blamed - like my behavior caused the 7 to come.
This old timer guy on the other side of the table got really upset and went on about how I shouldn’t have been talking while I was shooting, why would someone talk when they were getting ready to shoot, I should have been concentrating, etc etc etc. I didn’t say anything but I didn’t like it.
And then throughout the next few rolls, the guy KEPT grumbling (he was about 3 positions away from me, almost across the table) on and on semi-under-his-breath about “why would you be talking when you shoulda been shooting?”
Don’t worry about people like this. They’ll find anything to blame for losing.
theladyshoots - 13 April 2012 12:26 PM
I was aggravated at that point and wanted to say something, but wasn’t quite sure of the etiquette/culture.
Sure, fire away if it bothers you so much.
theladyshoots - 13 April 2012 12:26 PM
So was I wrong?
No
theladyshoots - 13 April 2012 12:26 PM
Was he wrong?
Yes
theladyshoots - 13 April 2012 12:26 PM
I am a 50-something woman, if that matters to the question.
To some it’s a business, others a party. That’s why i mostly play just me and the crew. It doesn’t take much for me to pick up ‘n leave. I guess im lucky to have a local place like that, but i know 3 or 4 places in LV where i can play solo in the afternoon. It’ll be interesting to read what the board regulars have to say.
If someone is ‘rubbing’ you the wrong way you can….ignore….request….escalate….switch.
It is really your call how you would handle someone like this, howver, there is no good reason for someone to be rude to you.
Maybe he is down to his last few chips….he is losing…..his wife left him….he lost his job….his dog died…...he can’t get a drink…..........maybe you cut him some slack.
To the many who believe interrupted shooters cause seven outs he missed his opportunity to call his bets off. So he gets mad at you because he missed that “warning signal” Craps players are so superstitious, poor cocktail waitresses (and wives, girl friends)they get the brunt of this thinking.
I’ll let you in on a dirty little secret about craps. The people on the orther end of the table… they are the enemy… who craes what they think. The people on your side of the table are always the good guys, and you should be chatting with them.
If you took less than 10 seconds from when the stickman gave you the dice till when they were in play, then you took less time than a lot of bozos who roll to themselves or set them several times. I think it’s safe to say that they are paying attention but to me they are a lot more annoying.
Continue to bond with nice people at the table. Shoot when the dice are passed back to you. Ignore the @ssholes as long as you can then either leave the table or (better) call them out.
I was once on a table shooting dice too. No one on the table was doing any good and so I thought that even if I seven-ed out it wouldn’t make too much of a difference so I took a chance and decided to shoot the dice. Well, I established the point and rolled a number or two and quickly seven-ed out. At the other end of the table there was this old fellow and he started to say really rude and horrible things looking at me with his really ugly face. The dice went around the table and came back to me, well…I was shaken up by that rude guy but a very nice fellow from New York encouraged me to try again so I did with about the same results. Again the same “ugly” stuff from that old guy happened again. Again the dice came around to me once more and I was about to pass the dice when that same nice fellow from N.Y. encouraged me again saying, that no one is doing any better and to try again. So, I did and this time I rolled for over an hour! At that point the nice fellow told me to keep rolling and that I could go on for an hour or more if I wished. I looked over at the “rude” guy and he was way back from the table making money not making a peep and not looking at me at all. I think I rolled for about 20 more minutes and finally seven-ed out.
Sometimes you just have to get the feel of the table and or where to shoot the dice to get comfortable and it takes a few times to get it right. I was just fortunate that I had someone in my corner with good energy and he was encouraging. Some people like that “rude” fellow are just like that, no sense lower yourself to their level. Your rude guy and mine could have picked up their money and gone to another table. Don’t pay them any mind.
Other than the actual rules for shooting (e.g. one hand only on the dice) the only etiquette I can think of while shooting is to get the bones on their way within five seconds or so of having them sent to you to keep the game moving. Here’s one of my posts from The Before Time.
You’ll notice our antagonists waited until after we whiffed to grumble. IMHO a common trait of these miscreants is that they are losers needing someone to blame. Ignoring them is easier said than done, but I now think the best response is simply to chuckle and shake one’s head as if to say, “What a moron!” I do not think anything upsets someone trying to upset you more than being dismissed as supplying some comic relief.
Again the dice came around to me once more and I was about to pass the dice when that same nice fellow from N.Y. encouraged me again saying, that no one is doing any better and to try again. So, I did and this time I rolled for over an hour!
Hi Flying V, I know this is a weird question, but did this happen at the Imperial Palace in Las Vegas?
To answer the thread, I’ve been playing craps for a number of years and there are superstitious cranks everywhere. I’ve had people criticize me for setting the dice before I throw them, I’ve had people criticize me for not setting them. One time, a high roller at one end of the $5 table screamed at the thrower, “the dice are getting cold!!” when he stopped to talk to his wife, who just showed up at the table. Fortunately, the majority of people aren’t so tightly wound and just want to have some fun. This is the reason craps is the casino game I play the most now.
I have often said on this board that superstition is one of the aspects of the game that make it fun. But they are MY superstitions and govern how I act and bet and play. I will never criticize another player for not believeing in the same superstitions as me. In fact, I kind of like it when a shoooter is oblivious to the superstitions….it is like I feel that if they are not aware of the superstitions, they will not be impacted by them.
The guy was a jerk…ignore him. If he did not like the way you were shooting and was so sure you would seven out, he could have bet the don’t or big red.
For those superstitous bozos who expouse their beliefs out load, I like to play with them.
Whenever a 7 rolls, I chide with him how he blinked his eyes during the roll and caused the 7. How he coughed and caused the 7. How he was sipping his coffee or vodka and caused the 7. After about 4 or 5 of these these bufoons tend to shut up.
You did right and you did nothing wrong.
Listen man…one of the upsides at a dice game is the social aspect..people from ALL walks of life, from high rollers to low grinders…the coming together of players from every end of the gambling spectrum is one of the hidden beauties of the game. These old, superstitious, opinionated pieces of shit will try to make the rest of the table as miserable as they are, if they think they can run an intimidation on what they feel are beginning or fairly new players. Either tell them to shove they’re advice where…or explain superstition=ignorance…don’t let negative energy at the table screw with your mojo…
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