I’ve decided that its finally time to replace the old newspaper backed felt layout on my home table.  I’m thinking of trying a synthetic layout with a builtin backing.  Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciaited.

I got synthetic for the 10’ table I’m building.  http://www.casino4you.com out of Vegas.  They totally tailored to what I specified. It turned out great and was just over $200. I went to Jo Anne’s and got felt to put under it. Great casino simulation.

I have a practice rig that I got somewhere (dont recall where) that just has felt glued to the wood. It just seems to ‘hard’. I dont recall a real table being that hard.  Any suggestions on making it a little more realistic?

Thanks.

db

dblayout - 11 May 2012 01:31 PM

I have a practice rig that I got somewhere (dont recall where) that just has felt glued to the wood. It just seems to ‘hard’. I dont recall a real table being that hard.  Any suggestions on making it a little more realistic?

Thanks.

db

If its glued on, you may be out of luck, but if you can manage to pull it off without damaging it, and get the glue off, you can tgry a couple of layers of folded newspaper under it.  Thats how my table came with its original felt layout on it.  If you do damage it removing it, you can probably try some billiard felt if theres a store nearby you can get that through, and try the newspaper underneath that.

Southern-Comfort - 28 April 2012 09:51 AM

I’ve decided that its finally time to replace the old newspaper backed felt layout on my home table.  I’m thinking of trying a synthetic layout with a builtin backing.  Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciaited.

S-C ,

The one thing that I was told many many moons ago - and this goes back to my PARR Forum days - build your table / practice rig to simulate actual casino conditions - for the casino(s) that you routinely play in -

Here is a viable / possible option that you might want to consider -

Have one half of your layout in felt - and the other half in micro-fiber -

That way you have the best of both worlds -

IF it is doable -

Presently, I am only playing AC and the Sands / Mt. Airy PA casinos -

These venues are all felt -

So I do not need to contend with the micro-fiber at present -

Hope the above info helps you !

P.S. -  I have a receiving station - not a full-size table - another option would be to surface the top and bottom -

the top could be felt - the bottom micro-fiber -

turn your receiving station over to the side that you currently desire to practice on !

$nakeEye$ - 11 May 2012 02:32 PM

Southern-Comfort - 28 April 2012 09:51 AM

I’ve decided that its finally time to replace the old newspaper backed felt layout on my home table.  I’m thinking of trying a synthetic layout with a builtin backing.  Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciaited.

S-C ,

The one thing that I was told many many moons ago - and this goes back to my PARR Forum days - build your table / practice rig to simulate actual casino conditions - for the casino(s) that you routinely play in -

Here is a viable / possible option that you might want to consider -

Have one half of your layout in felt - and the other half in micro-fiber -

That way you have the best of both worlds -

IF it is doable -

Presently, I am only playing AC and the Sands / Mt. Airy PA casinos -

These venues are all felt -

So I do not need to contend with the micro-fiber at present -

Hope the above info helps you !

P.S. -  I have a receiving station - not a full-size table - another option would be to surface the top and bottom -

the top could be felt - the bottom micro-fiber -

turn your receiving station over to the side that you currently desire to practice on !

I was actually considering doing that.  Nut, the felt is pretty old, even where its rarely used.  I mean it dates back to the mid 90s.  Its time for a fresh start.
But it is an iteresting concept since the rail portion is not actully “attached” to the table, so it could also be turned the opposite way so you could simulate throwing from either side of the stickman with both covers.  Just not worth it logistically.

Example of what I was able to do with Synthetic.  Seems to be what I’ve seen on the Strip.  As for bounce, there are going to be so many variations.  The place that did mine does supply casinos with their felt.  His recommendation was cheap store bought felt underneath (but he knows I play on the strip).  Again, the touch seems very similar to what I’ve played on in Vegas.  As I said, I am building my own table and have spent much time eyeing empty tables at Hard Rock, Planet Hollywood, Mandalay, and Excaliber.  I don’t think you are going to see an impact on the dice on felt versus synthetic…I think the focus should be on what is under it.

Juiceski - 12 May 2012 06:55 AM

Example of what I was able to do with Synthetic.  Seems to be what I’ve seen on the Strip.  As for bounce, there are going to be so many variations.  The place that did mine does supply casinos with their felt.  His recommendation was cheap store bought felt underneath (but he knows I play on the strip).  Again, the touch seems very similar to what I’ve played on in Vegas.  As I said, I am building my own table and have spent much time eyeing empty tables at Hard Rock, Planet Hollywood, Mandalay, and Excaliber.  I don’t think you are going to see an impact on the dice on felt versus synthetic…I think the focus should be on what is under it.

Nice!  Looks like a firebet layout that you have.  I know that with synthetic, you can order it with a backing attached, so it will be the same as the synthetics in casinos with the same backing attached.  That beats guessing about any backing at all.

Thanks.  I love the thrill of the fire bet and had to have it for my home table.  I believe you are correct about the backing as I have seen it offered as I was searching for a company to supply my layout.  The material is interesting as the surface does have a felt quality to it, while the underside is nothing like the top.  you can check out my table in progress (pre layout) ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMf3KtyD4RE&list=FLhGyV5CM2fixf7JXIFefOCA&feature=mh_lolz

When practicing on a practice rig, and assuming you track your rolls, do you count (or track) the rolls that hit the side of the practice rig? It seems that these shouldn’t count because on a real table, there are no sides, or they are further from the middle of the table (where you should be throwing too). And when the dice hit the side of the rig (the bare wood), it affects the roll of the dice.  Theoretically you want the dice to hit the table (softly), gently hit the back wall, and die (and not roll over the place)

Just wondering what others do.

dblayout - 18 May 2012 09:45 AM

When practicing on a practice rig, and assuming you track your rolls, do you count (or track) the rolls that hit the side of the practice rig? It seems that these shouldn’t count because on a real table, there are no sides, or they are further from the middle of the table (where you should be throwing too). And when the dice hit the side of the rig (the bare wood), it affects the roll of the dice.  Theoretically you want the dice to hit the table (softly), gently hit the back wall, and die (and not roll over the place)

Just wondering what others do.

The hard cold truth of the matter is - there are an innumerable amount of things that can cause the dice to roll all over the place -

Chips on the layout, people placing late bets in your landing area, dice hitting the layout on their edges causing them to veer left or right, and on and on ....

I count ALL rolls of the dice - good, bad or indifferent ...

In actual casino play - ” It is what it is - good, bad or just downright ugly ” -

Endeavour to hit your landing zone softly and you’ll eliminate the majority of the associated issues your’re encountering -

Practice with a focus - not just to see how many throws you can get make in a certain time frame !