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I did the same thing last year bringing $2000. I left Vegas -$350.00 but logged 13 hrs of gambling. I stayed at the Paris and played primarily between Paris and Bally’s. (I was trying to get comps) What I did was to play 2 hours in the morning starting around 9am or 10am (where $5 min were easy to find). After that I walked the strip, hit some shops and sampled the nearby watering holes. (I recommend the Cabo Wabo Tequilia bar next to Planet Hollywood.) Then I would play for 2 hours early evening starting at around 7pm or so (Dinner hour = fewer people at tables) Then I would hit the buffet for late dinner. This method kept my bankroll in check for the entire visit. I see that you want to play full odds, but keep in mind you may end up at a $10 table. In that case, just just play 1.5-2-2.5x odds. Each win will still be $40. You can always up the odds if winning. Also I wouldn’t recommend that $100 loss limit. Thats to low with 3 numbers even at 3x4x5 odds. Others might disagree, but this is what you should do. Arrive Sunday get settled, get your Total Rewards card from the Imperial Palace casino and hit some bars. No gambling on the first night especially if you have a late flight. Use this first day as a day of rest and keep your bankroll for the next day. Now the next day, find that $5 table but be prepared to play at a $10 table. Bring $1000 to the table with your card. You’ll be surprised how dealers / pit boss will take notice. Get your chips, and make $5 pass line bet for the dealers along with yours. Again you’ll be noticed. Then play as you plan to. Your playing with come bets so you already have the the best bets mathmatically. Let your loss limit be $400 - $500 otherwise you’ll be playing with “scared money” and leaving the table before the dice have a chance to change for the better. If you get down to $300 then you can always reduce your odds bets. Again this is what I did which worked out ok. Let us know what happened. Good Luck.
I’d play Casino Royale after breakfast. And the Nugget or Fitz’s in the afternoon.
Last time i was there, the Fitz was doing alot of remodel work. Hammering and banging, and empty crap tables. The latter being my favorite thing. i’d buy in for 250 in the a.m.. And 250 in the p.m.. If and when you get hot, press with the house’s money. Y’know, i never loose more than half my buy in, but that’s just me. My mental attitude changes when i get any more behind. But if i’m getting value(having fun) for my action, i’d go down to the felt. $250/$75 worth of fun, ain’t much fun in Vegas. Good Luck.
Wow. So much bad advice on this thread I won’t give it a second airing by quoting any of it. But there was some good advice in there. BS777’s suggestion about using the old envelope strategy is dead on. I’d take it a step farther and pre-determine how many sessions you’re going to play. I usually recommend players avoid the tables their first and last days in Vegas. That’d give you two solid days to play. But if you can’t put off playing until day two at least limit your play. Get an afternoon session in on Sunday. Break for dinner and chill for a bit. Then get an early evening session in. That’s 2 sessions on day one. Day two I suggest you hit the tables very early - 6AM local time works okay - play for 90 minutes or so, then grab a comp for breakfast and take a break. Change casinos if you want and play a late morning session. Have a light lunch. Play a late afternoon or early evening session. Hit the rack. That’s 3 sessions on day two. Repeat on day three. Finally, play one more morning session your last day in Vegas. That’s a total of nine sessions. $1500 to play with. Figure $165 a session. Fix up ten envelopes. That tenth one is the take home envelope. Set a reasonable loss limit and win objective. At the end of the session all of the money left from your buy in plus any winnings goes into that envelope. It then gets packed away and you don’t look at it again until you are putting the next session’s money in it. Work your way though all of the nine session with . . . for example . . . a 50% loss limit and you are guaranteed to take at least half of your money home. More importantly, you won’t blow the whole bankroll chasing losses on day one.
As for where to play - well, that’s a tough one with that bankroll. Personally, I haven’t darkened the door of Casino Royale since they took out the mini-craps table many years ago. Everyone brags about the fact that they run a 100X odds game there, but when’s the last time you played 100X odds? I know a few people who do - but you can rest assured they don’t play at CR. In any case, I refuse to play in a joint so nasty that your feet stick to the floors. I like to play in places where I feel “good” about my environment. Yeah, I play downtown from time to time and I have a preference for a couple of places down there. But I’d much rather play at Bellagio, Caesars, or out at an upscale locals casino like M Resort or Green Valley Ranch. The last thing I want to do is play in some grind joint where they sweat the money. But again, that’s going to be a tough one with a $165 session bankroll.
You should have no trouble finding low limit games downtown - particularly if you play weekday mornings. A $3 game should be no problem. I’d avoid the games at places like Joker’s Wild. Basically you have a 14 foot table full of retirees who are constantly arguing over mis-pays on .50 cent bets or whatever. You’re going to the casino to have fun - not to listen to a bunch of old farts bitch and complain.
Odds are you’ll find a few low limit games going on in some of the older local joints - think in terms of the Station properties, for example. They’re all over town so you can’t miss them.
Now, I don’t recall you saying anything about your betting strategy, so maybe you can give us a little insight as to how you’d play with this kind of bankroll - assuming a $3 double odds game. How are you going to handle your $165 action?
Wow. So much bad advice on this thread I won’t give it a second airing by quoting any of it.
You do seem to have a habit of just jumping in with blanket belittlements of everyone who has a different opinion than yours. You might want to try opening your mind just a little and see what some fresh ideas might do for you.
You do seem to have a habit of just jumping in with blanket belittlements of everyone who has a different opinion than yours. You might want to try opening your mind just a little and see what some fresh ideas might do for you.
Yeah, I didn’t want to mention any one post specifically because I didn’t want to get into a pissing contest with anyone. If the shoe fits - wear it. You know who you are.
Personally, I’ve been playing craps for over 40 years and teaching the game for the last 12. I recognize fresh ideas when I see them. I’ll also be the first to admit that I’m still learning after all these years. But I also recognize re-hashing of the same old BS.
Blic, are you still waiting on your trip or have you come and gone already? If you’ve made the trip, How did it go for you? My bad, I see now that the trip is next month…now I can’t figure out how to delete this post…
Regards the $165 bankroll - per session - which you deem ” deficient ” - I concur -
A $165 ” buy-in ” at a $5 Min table is very light -
WHAT would YOU suggest is the ” proper / acceptable ” bankroll / per session that one should be able to have available as to meet the swings of the game - AND - hopefully, depart a winner AS per the playing venue of the bove poster ?
Furthermore, betting strategies/amounts go hand-in-hand with bankroll limitations !
Trip is definately still on…My flight gets in Sunday morning and that day I am going to stick to strip casinos like Casino Royale. I am hopeful I can find a few $5 tables but we will see on that one.
Monday, July 2nd I am planning on catching that SDX express bus to Fremont around 10:00 a.m. and staying there for a good long while. From what I read I will have no problem finding $5 and even a $3 table until early afternoon.
Tuesday, this day all depends on how much money I have left from the first two days on where i’ll be, haha.
I’d love to meet up if your around and want to hit up some tables, let me know if you will be in any of those areas during that time span.
The 3 envelopes (1 per day) method seems like the soundest advice. It garantees fun forthe whole trip. I’ve done a variation of this on a previous trip to LV, but I would use different pockets in my luggage bag to seperate the days’ bankrolls. I’m planning a trip again in mid july, and I will definitely manage my fundage in this way.
Here’s an idea that might be helpful. I have a friend that has been
a gambler for many years who couldn’t bring himself from walking
away from the table when he was up. He was like many gamblers,
he wanted the big score, he would grind for a few hours and get
lucky and be up a thousand or more. Ten hours later he’d still be
at the tables down a few thousand. A few years back I ran into him
in Atlantic City. I played for awhile with him and about an hour later
he said he had to do something and would be back in about 20 minutes.
We were doing fairly well, so I told him I’d wait for him. He put a chip
on the rail to hold his spot and picked up his chips. About 20 minutes
later, he returned and started playing again. Well it wasn’t long before
he said he had to do something and would I wait again. I asked him
where he was going and he told me that every time he gets up $300
or $400 he runs over to the cash checking place and gets a money
order. I was confused at first and he explained how he brings a bunch
of self addressed envelops with him and sends the money orders home
every time he gets up. I thought it was a great idea for him especially
having very little discipline. He told me this was the best thing he had
ever done. He would come with a bankroll of a few thousand and he play
til he was tapped out, but when he got home he knew the mailman
would be coming in a day or so. He said he had times when he got
home after a few days and there would be 10 to 20 money orders
waiting for him. He had one 3 day run where he sent home 53 money
orders ranging from $300 to $500 each. This method works for him
and it gives him a goal and that 20 to 30 minute break away from the
table really helps him to keep his focus. It’s a nice feeling to go
home and “KNOW” there’s something waiting for you,especially if
you just blew you bankroll! Hope this might help someone!
[A friend] told me that every time he gets up $300 or $400 he runs over to the cash checking place and gets a money order. I was confused at first and he explained how he brings a bunch of self addressed envelops with him and sends the money orders home every time he gets up.
A tip o’ the hat to you, Sir/Madam! An extreme measure to be sure, but an ingenious way to force discipline upon one who cannot acquire it. I have taken the liberty of forwarding a link to your post to John Robison, editor of Frank Scoblette’s e-zine, Casino City Times. Hopefully he will see fit to publish it there as well, and I strongly encourage any other editors and forum administrators who read this to do the same.
[A friend] told me that every time he gets up $300 or $400 he runs over to the cash checking place and gets a money order. I was confused at first and he explained how he brings a bunch of self addressed envelops with him and sends the money orders home every time he gets up.
A tip o’ the hat to you, Sir/Madam! An extreme measure to be sure, but an ingenious way to force discipline upon one who cannot acquire it. I have taken the liberty of forwarding a link to your post to John Robison, editor of Frank Scoblette’s e-zine, Casino City Times. Hopefully he will see fit to publish it there as well, and I strongly encourage any other editors and forum administrators who read this to do the same.
Thank You Midnight Skulker,
Your thoughtfulness is much appreciated in that it might help others.
As your well aware, many of our younger generation has fallen victim
to the addiction of gambling, especially with sports betting and even
more so with the explosion of Texas Hold’em. The televised shows of
the WSOP, with the large number of 20 - 30 year old age group, all chasing
the dream of millions is scary in a way. Most have no insight of the
percentage of those that are truly successful professionals. They have
no concept of the hardships and heartbreaks 98% of what most hard
core gamblers go through. The so called “high” of winning is so overwhelming,
some will do almost anything to experience it. So hopefully my little story
might be shared and be of some consolation to those with no discipline
or bitten by the “gambling bug.” A tip of the hat to you also! Big Lou/Chingy
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