Cashing Out Large Wins - Las Vegas

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  1. DeMango, Mar 6, 2021

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    Chi square has been explained on various gambling sites, obviously not this one. All the math boys have been chased off here by various voodoo posters. I had 289 rolls the other day at IP, ran them through the computer and Shazam, Chi Square came in .oooo, a perfect score!
     
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  2. von duck, Mar 6, 2021

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    OK, your score was "perfect"? :confused: What does that mean, in terms of influence? 100% influence of the dice? Or maybe 0% influence of the dice? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Guys talking in circles, and never saying anything. Also, I don't see how the score could be "perfect", unless the number of throws input, was divisible by 36, and 289 is NOT. :confused: :) What a bunch of bullshit! :cool:
     
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  5. cmonhard8, Mar 6, 2021

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    The last time I rolled at a casino(pre covid days), I did four high/lows in a row to start my roll(12, 2, 2, 2).... I've seen 5 high/low rolls in a row before, but the table was all excited that I rolled 4, as one of the workers stated he had never seen that before.....Anyway, I had nothing on the high/low for the first two rolls, and yes I know most of you wouldn't touch those 'succor bets', but had I started with $10 high/low(which I usually did with my rolls)($5 on the 12, and $5 on the 2), and kept pressing with each roll($10 on the first roll, to $100 for the 2nd roll, to $1000 on the 3rd roll, and the same $1000 for the 4th roll), that would make $31,605 profit by the end of that 4th roll, including the taking down of the money on the table.......So after the cheering and signing autographs, and putting up my statue, I color up, and leave the table..
    Then WHO gives me the tax forms? The table guys or the cashiers or who? And as I understand it, you pay 20% tax on large table winnings, so can a casino take out the tax right then and there, and just give you a check??? So in that case, I'd have walked out with around a $24,000 check....

    And then do they take you in a dark, smokey room with one light bulb, cuff you, and beat you up a bit, telling you to never do that kind of rolling again???
     
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  6. DeMango, Mar 6, 2021

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    Duck, Duck, Duck, you gotta get out more often. Don’t cost anything to join Heavy’s site. Same with Wizard of Vegas forum. The results in Chi Square range from 1.000, pure random to .0000 influenced dice
     
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    Can it tell you with any certainty, who or what, is the source, of the influence? When I was doing weekends in Biloxi, I saw dice that thought were "influenced". What was then the "Isle", had the most influenced dice,
    IMO, and I avoided that place. Most other players avoided that place too. :cool:
     
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  8. DeMango, Mar 6, 2021

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    Well the source is the results of the throw. A large sample size, all of them, duly inputed into BoneTracker. After a certain minimum amount of tosses there is calibration of the correlation of the results. Above my pay grade. Let the math folks come up with this and tell me the truth: influence yes or no. This is where I want to be and where I let you be. Seek truth, you are on your own.
     
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  9. Night Attack, Mar 6, 2021

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    From the little I know, in order to be taxed at a table game (craps included) you need to win at least $600 and the odds on that win must have been at least 300/1. So your Hi-Lo winnings had you made that bet should not be taxed as the odds on that would have been 30/1 or thereabouts depending on where you play.

    A 6 point firebet win however would get you a W2-G. I believe they bring it right there at the table to you. Some places even stop the game so that upstairs can review the tape to make sure everything is kosher.

    As for getting the shit kicked out of you in the back room, I think that Is optional.
     
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  10. von duck, Mar 7, 2021

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    Right there it is, in your own words. :confused: "MANY of them, duly imputed. NOT, ALL of them duly imputed. :) This statement by you would indicate, that some amount of "cherry picking" is being employed. Bad results would be the fault of "bouncy tables", or whatever, and therefore, it is permissible, in your mind, to exclude such results. It is very common in experimentation, that things are structured, so as to give a better chance, for the results to more nearly match, some preconceived notions. If one seeks to know the truth, one must at least start, by being honest, with ones self. Unfortunately, the "truth", will not always be what we wish it were. :cool:
     
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    How would a so called "Aussie" know so much about, the American tax system, miss thisun? :cool:
     
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  12. DeMango, Mar 7, 2021

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    You got the wrong meaning of many. Lets go with more is better shall we? Better than that, fixed it for you. Cherry picking is not allowed.
     
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    I don't think so man. "Many" means a lot, but not all. It doesn't have any other meaning. You had what is known as a "Freudian Slip". It's when you reveal a truth, that you didnt mean to. "Shit happens" man. The cats out of the bag, and you can't get him back in. Simple logic, would lead to the same conclusion, but take a much shorter route. :) Nice edit, but the original words, are above my reply. That edit, in itself, indicates the intent to deceive, which was my conclusion, before the edit. It's that "tangled web we weave" thing.
     
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  14. DeMango, Mar 7, 2021

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    There was no cherry picking. I wrote down 289 rolls. I am the beneficiary of an accurate tally, not you. my money, not yours. You ask the messenger, then you want to shoot him, because you don't like the answer. Not sorry.

    Many means more than a few.
     
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    Oh you poor dear, you. OK, one more question. Exactly how much influence, does that .000 indicate was present.
     
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    Ummmm.......I'll get back to you.
     
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    In this case the all 7’s set were 9.03 rolls per 7
     
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    So you set the "all sevens" to MISS the 7? :confused: How many of the rolls were from that set? :cool:
     
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  19. DeMango, Mar 7, 2021

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    I’m usually a double pitch machine. Hardway set was barely above 6.25. So you set all sevens to avoid the seven.
     
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  20. twodicebilly, Mar 7, 2021

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    Demango comes from the "we are right and everyone else is wrong dice group"
    There no pills for that and the longer you are in there the worse it gets.

    A player that is honest knows that conditions change every time you play, everything
    is different including yourself. If that were not true all any of us that have logged 1000
    hours or more practicing would just have to go to the casino, get the dice one time
    take our $5000 and leave.

    That being the none sense it is , it is hard work for the best shooter to beat the table
    and the one size fits all approach is only a pile of sheep dip that is designed to make
    a person feel good more than it is to put casino money in your pocket.

    That being said there is no reason not to put that money in your pocket when you can.
    Got to the table Saturday at the Dells, first time in many moons...

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    Good thing i am good at chi, chi, chi squared...

    TDB
     
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