Update on Nuclear Choice or Rolling 7's in Bubble Craps

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  1. TR31

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    I had to wait 3 hours last night (and several trips) until the bubble craps machine was empty so I can show you guys the necessary results. Plus I did not want to kill anyone's or a bystander's bankroll in the process. I had to get back to the same casino, same machine and Station #4 to repeat the Nuclear option or rolling mainly red 7's as well as blue 7's. When the machine is full of players, it's hard to show my red 7's in a photo.

    First photo is the first ten rolls and come what may and note that I am the only shooter / player:

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    The first number in the 10 roll series starts with an 8 (which is the point) -- the red 7 before the 8 was from the prior player that busted out.

    First series: 8 - red 7 so I am 1 for 2 in rolling 7's
    Second series: Blue 7 - 6 - red 7 so I am 2 for 3 (or 3 for 5 so far)
    Third Series: Ten - 4 - red 7 so I am 1 for 3 (or 4 for 8 so far)
    Fourth Series: 3 - 9 so I am 0 for 2 and 4 for 10 or a batting average of 40%.

    In the next photo you can see why rolling 7's are so EFFEN DIFFICULT. It is much EASIER TO AVOID rolling a 7.

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    In this machine, the player is only allowed 15 seconds to shoot the dice. If the player wants non-random rolls, the players has really less than 10 seconds because of "kinetic energy" aka the dice are airborne and getting higher off the vibrating plate after the 10 second mark meaning greater chance for random rolls.

    You can see the players really DOES NOT have enough time to look for a certain dice combination and assuming awesome eye-hand coordination to make the shot, pop the dice and land with a 7 combination showing. This stuff is not easy!! The worst case scenario is the machine is tumbling the dice that never gives a good combination to shoot at (for a 7) within those first 10 seconds.

    Btw, an eagle eyed reader will notice (based on the second photo) that I rolled 2 more 7's (red 7 & blue 7) in the next five rolls. That meant I rolled 6x7's in 15 rolls, which is still 40% batting average. That means the nuclear option is alive and well -- it is so important that I shoot from this station -- station #4 in this casino.

    Remember, you can't reverse engineer future rolls.
     

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    Before TD, the village idiot, responds with his patented bovine manure opinions, I want to remind people that the Nuclear option or choice is the ability to roll red 7's or "7 out" on purpose to bust out the box number or "right side" bettors.

    TD's favorite argument has alway been since he or she can't do it, therefore no one else can do it as well.

    The test in 10 rolls is to roll 5 points with each point followed immediately by a red 7, respectively. In those 10 rolls, I managed to roll three red 7's out of a possible five red 7's.

    I cannot stress enough that I do not control the dice, I have no idea ahead of time what dice combinations the machine will give me to shoot at, the only guaranteed dice combination is the last result, the machine may not cycle through all 36 dice combinations within first 10 seconds, and I don't have a lot of time to be choosy.
     
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    Well it does look like you've found something to exploit.
     
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    With a 40% plus ratio of rolling sevens, I'm laying all the numbers, and loading up on Big Red.......then retiring to my Island in the sun.

    Is there anything wrong with this picture when he says he uses it to "nuke" other players?
     
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    Not if some blow-hard pisses you off and you want to get them to leave.

    I agree with you OAP. Just wait until the quiet times, and play alone, drilling the 7's.
     
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  6. TDVegas, Apr 20, 2017

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    I nuked some blowhard a few days ago. Yes, the nuke option works.:confused:

    I can roll 7's.

    Does this tool TR31 really think that posting after the fact pictures of bubble results means anything?

    I've got hundreds of these nuke pictures....all different kinds, sequences, you name it.

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    Right. You just took a picture after the first picture. Then reverse engineered it. It's still a past roll...something you fail to understand. I can cherry pick that crap everyday on the bubble. My Iphone takes unlimited pictures. I can discard the ones that don't fit my qualification for nuking someone. I can take one picture and if something follows that makes for an interesting claim...I can take a 2nd photo. Pair them up. Voila.

    See my response to your past postings..
     
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    See meaning of antonyms....
    Webster's dictionary.
     
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    Contradictory also works...:D
     
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    This bubbles crap stuff is hard for me to understand. I thought Mr Las Vegas, Harry Reid used the nuclear option to get rid of the super majority requirement in the Senate. Did he also do something to rig the bubbles machine?
     
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    :)
     
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    His postings are good for a chuckle...
    not much else.
     
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    You can alway spot a scam artist -- they can't reproduce the results themselves.

    I have posted BEFORE & AFTER photos and I make sure the AFTER photo (when coupled with the BEFORE photo) has at least 15 rolls.

    1. You never see TD, the village idiot, post BEFORE & AFTER photos. Hmmm. If it so easy, why isn't TD doing it as well???

    2. Any seasoned craps player will tell you a sequence of 15 rolls is very hard to replacate. Here's why TD is such a moron, when you match up the numbers -- YOU HAVE TO MATCH UP the SEQUENCE and EXACT DICE COMBINATIONS over both photos. Duh!!

    Any reader with eagle eyes can spot miss-matched photos and that is EXACTLY the reason why TD, the village idiot, does not post AFTER photos with AT LEAST 15 rolls.

    If you do the math -- the probability of any 15 rolls is pretty hard, which is why I use 15 rolls as a minimum.
     
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    This is another reason TD, the village idiot, is the village idiot of this forum on an uncontested basis.

    As a player, the only thing I control in bubble craps is WHEN to push the button to get the dice to flip or rotate and land a certain way.

    While the machine controls the dice, my ability to push the button at the right time results in non-random rolls. I am INDIRECTLY influencing the dice outcomes, which is a concept TD can never understand.
     
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    So is TR31 the latest iteration of Harley/Eagleeye/Bohemian?
     
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    No doubt!

    "DUH"

    If there was a doubt before, it wet away with these posts today......a little pathetic.
     
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    You say, the machine controls the dice? I'm gonna say that I completely agree with that assertion. I'm not real clear on what it is that you are saying, you are actually doing?
     
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    He isn't clear on that either! :)
     
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  19. Twelve4s, Apr 22, 2017

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    You're getting your turds mixed up. This is the nuclear turd,

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    Always liked the TR6. Not so sure about the TR31 model.

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